Willander Svea No.10

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    A Svea No.10 made for sale by 'A.Willander', OR a Svea No.10 sub-contracted out to be manufactured by Willanders? There doesn't seem to be any consensus on which way round! But I'm putting it here, rather than in the Sievert/Svea section because the word 'Sievert' doesn't appear anywhere on the stove, and there is nothing on tank base.

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    This example hasn't survived quite as well as the other couple of 'Willanders' already posted. Too much of the marking has been polished away to almost nothing. Nevertheless the normal designations 'SVEA No.10' and 'PATENT' are both there to the naked eye even if my photography doesn't do them all justice.

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    Educated guess from combination of features suggests 1920s, and most importantly it still works fine:

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    beautiful old one. Looks like a classic stove yet still shining bright.
     
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    A piece of evidence I have found in an online archive collection (https://archive.org) seems to support the former view. A.Willander of Stockholm appears in a Canadian trade journal, 'Hardware and Metal', published in Toronto, in issues in both 1907 and 1908. Willanders appear to have been large scale international hardware traders, and in reference to the very substantial catalogue which they offered is specific mention of their trading 'Svea' brand stoves at this date:

    Hardware & Metal, Toronto.jpg Hardware & Metal Vol.19 No.39 28 Sept. 1907 p.16.jpg

    Hardware & Metal Vol.19 No.33 17 Aug. 1907 p.48.jpg
     
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    A neat piece of corroboration of the relationship between CR Nyberg, maker of the Svea stoves, and Willanders at this date has recently been brought to my attention. The Swedish Technical Museum archive in Stockholm has various papers in its possession which belonged to CR Nyberg. One section of these papers is specifically labelled as 'Brev och räkningar mellan Nyberg och Willander 1905-1908' (Letters and bills between Nyberg and Willander 1905-1908). The archive is only available for in-person scrutiny, it is not digitised. The dates are significant as Willanders catalogues seem to indicate a switch away from Svea and to offering 'Svecia' stoves made by Erikssons instead during or immediately after 1908.

    This new evidence would suggest that the date of this particular No.10 Svea stove must be earlier than I had first thought, very likely c.1907/8.


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    An excellent revelation. Makes sense. Ian gets the hero hat :thumbup::thumbup:
    I had done some searching after seeing this 1907 Willander/SVEA connection but came up empty.
    Willander above got his name on the stove, took on sales/distributer role yet. Is SIEVERT on there somewhere? If not would it be the only SVEA w/o SIEVERT name (present, somewhere)?
    I've been sure of SVEA offerings pre1908 catalog but such details have surely been elusive.
    I couldn't find 1905-08 section in link but I'm taking this as confirmation (at least, a strong indicator) SVEAs were offered by Willander as early as 1905 (we had already 1907).
    It will be a bonus idf model # make mention in that 1905-08 ref. , for one, your No.12.
    thank you
     
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    this advert date is from newspaper
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    1908
     
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    ■ ■■■ Fabrikat utan köp ändamåls- 1 V FOtOgenKOk enliga och moderna sådana •• FOTOGHNKÖKBT SVEA. I Sr världens förnämsta fotogenkök och aäljos under full. ständig garanti. | En liter vatten kokar på tre minuter. Tänder lätt. | Fullständigaste förgasnlng. Sprider lågan under kärlete hela botten, så en jämn kokning och stekning ernås Om ren fotogen användes, behöfver brännaren sällan eller aldrig rensas. Under 1,800 bränntimmar förbru- I kar Svea för 32 kr. fotogen. För att I uppnå samma effekt förbrukar ett ] vanligt vekkök för 112 kr. fotogen. J Till hvarje kök medföljer gratis på-J fyllningstratt af mässing och sprit-| flaska af glas. Fotogenköket SVEA säljes i hvarje solid järn- och bosättningsaffär, som följer med sin tid och iakttager industriens framsteg och som vill bjuda allmänheten det bästa. Svea säljes i parti hos A- WILLANDER, Stockholm.
    Hufvudstadsbladet Newspaper Archives, Jun 14, 1905, p. 2
    Hufvudstadsbladet Newspaper Archives
    June 14, 1905 Page 2
     
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    I think we can now take this as definitely confirmed. The advert below was taken out on 5th June 1905 in the 'Göteborgs-Posten' newspaper (ref.)

    Göteborgsposten 5 June 1905 (2).jpg

    Göteborgsposten 5 June 1905 close (3).jpg

    (As of the date of this posting this is also the known earliest confirmed date for finding the 'Svea' stove made by CR Nyberg on sale.)
     
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    hm...
    now earliest is may-31-1905


    Hufvudstadsbladet Newspaper Archives, May 31, 1905, p. 2
     
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    Translation (Google Translate) from the above post by @gieorgijewski:

    Make without purchase purpose- 1 V PHOTOGRAPHY single and modern ones •• PHOTOGRAPHIC SVT SVEA.

    In Sr the world's foremost kerosene kitchen and aäljos under full. permanent warranty. One liter of water boils in three minutes. Lights easily. Most complete gasification. Spread the flame under the vessel all over the bottom, so that even cooking and frying is achieved. If pure kerosene is used, the burner rarely or never needs to be cleaned. During 1,800 burning hours, Svea consumes SEK 32. kerosene. In order to achieve the same effect, a normal folding kitchen consumes SEK 112. kerosene. J For each kitchen comes free on-J filling funnel of brass and spirits-bottle of glass. The SVEA kerosene kitchen is sold in every solid iron and settlement store, which follows its time and observes the industry's progress and which wants to offer the public the best. Svea is sold in batches at A-WILLANDER, Stockholm.
     
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    or even 5th April 1905 - reference in 'Svenska Dagbladet' to A.Willander 'exporting' 700kr Svea stoves from Stockholm that day!
     
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    yeah...
    on 15 april 1905
    advert by Lind
    svea1905.jpg
    Sök bland svenska dagstidningar
    if remember Lind was importand engineer in Nyberg factory and owner part of Nybergs Lampfabrik AB - in 1906
    ESKILSTUNABODEN - till thats moment - i have impression -"was connected with cas tiron parts" - but who nows...
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    Finally an advert from the very beginning of the Willander/Svea co-operation, the launch just in time for Christmas 1904:
    Varbergsposten 1904-12-08.jpg ("Varbergsposten" newspaper, 8th December 1904)

    "Ideal Christmas present":
    Varbergsposten 1904-12-08 (2).jpg

    Subsequent adverts taken out soon after in other publications indicate that there were 2 Svea models available initially No.s 1 and 0:
    Arbetet1905-04-04 (2).jpg

    This advert appeared in the "Göteborgs Aftonblad" newspaper on April 1st 1905, in "Arbetet" on April 4th 1905, and others soon after.
    Arbetet1905-04-04.jpg Göteborgs Aftonblad1905-04-01.jpg
     
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    Excellent. Thank you Ian.

    All, Btw the the ad offers
    No.1 a "2 pinter" domestic, like the competition and they are actually 2 1/4 pint and
    No. 0 a 1 1/2 pint
    both with the "early" Svea roarer burner.
     
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