In my recent post " Dombås revisited" we sort of drifted into talking about the different Manaslu stoves. As this picture shows, there is a difference between the burners. The one to the left is from my 96, the right one from my 121. Why not using the same burner and different lenght riser tubes Best regards Stoveuser
That burner makes the Manaslu 96 a real, usable stove as a hiker. I've only used my 96s at home with a single exception, under "controlled conditions" on one day hike. The reason of course is that the 96s have about 9 separate loose parts (haven't counted them for years, but that's what I remember). The Manaslu reduces that to a 00/210 level (which is still a lot of parts to lose in the leaves and forest duff....).
Different dates or places of manufacture with different machines? Maybe the taller burner is easier to manufacture with a bit more space at the soldering point. Do they sit the same in proportion to the top of the pot supports? My 96 burner is 82mm tall btw.
Interesting conundrum you've posed, Stoveuser. Japanese engineering tends to be sophisticated and I'm inclined to suppose that they wanted a shorter burner for the 96 in order not to have it too tall and out of proportion and with longer pot legs to go with a taller (121-sized) burner, increasing the tendency to topple. More 96 lipstick burner height in fact. With the 121 they wanted to reproduce the proportions of a classic Swedish 210 or Optimus 00, or for a more practical reason, keep the optimum distance between pot base and stove tank to prevent overheating. Are the jet sizes (and power outputs) different between the two, incidentally? Eamonn's just as likely to be right of course. John
Hmmmm I'll see if I can measure both burner heights and burner-pot distance on the 121 and 96. When it comes to output, they seems to be similar. But please note that I have not preformed any scientifically serious tests to confirm that statement How about the 126? Anybody out there Best regards Stoveuser
The Manaslu 96 burner is the same height (actually ever so slightly taller =) when compared to a Radius 21 burner.
A quick measurement gave me the following results: Manaslu 96 :Burner height, incl riser tube 81 mm. Burner to pot distance 15 mm Manaslu 121:Burner height, incl riser tube 87 mm Burner to pot distance 15 mm Optimus 00 :Burner height, incl riser tube 84 mm Burner to pot distance 19 mm A couple of comparative photos Best regards Stoveuser
My two Radius 21 and my Optimus 00 (with burner from Primus) are 81mm inc the riser. All these 3 burners give the same (about 17mm) distance from top of the burner to the pot. My two Primus 210 (made by Høvik verk) has the same hight of the burners, but with different riser.
Hi folks, the Manaslu 96 has almost the same burner as a 1-pint stove, e.g. Manaslu 121, Primus 121, Optimus 00. There are discussions on this forum about mounting such a burner on a Primus/Optimus 96 and advice has been given to be careful with such a Frankenstove, since more heat would be generated pressuring the small 96-tank too much. So I am wondering if this is a realistic concern that would also be valid for the Manaslu 96, or if this risk is rather theoretic. Any thoughts? Regards, Philipp
I am one of those interested in a Frankenstove, but not a '00' burner... A #1 burner with a heat-shield under the spirit cup. Probably impractical unless the riser were grooved & you could attach the heat shield as you assemble the stove. The Manaslu #96 is interesting.
