I have been buying gaskets/seals from various places but quite often I don't have a gasket that I need. Ordering it will take time. I thought that maybe I just buy a Punch tool kit to make gaskets that I need. I looked what is available and I thought that Facom kit is the one that is good for me to make various size gaskets: I tested it for making tank cap gaskets and it works quite ok : I got 1mm, 2mm and 3mm nitrile rubber mat from local store. From those I can punch gaskets that I need. From my company I found 1mm lead plate so I can use that for places that are too hot for rubber.
Hi, Afterburner, Looks like a very nice set. Does it punch concentric holes, inside and outside, at the same time? Or, do you have to punch a larger, then punch the inside hole separately? I have an El Cheapo punch set from Harbor Freight, and it works well enough. But, I'd love to have one a set that punches both holes simultaneously. Thanks for sharing, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Hi Doc, It will punch co-centric holes simultaneously. In my second picture it should be visible that punch handle has two punch blades(?) attached to make gasket that inner hole is 10mm and outer diameter is 18mm. There is slight limitation; you cannot make all combinations because punch handle has steps for sizes. Most inner one is for 3-10mm, next on is for 12-20mm and outer one is for 22-30mm. Set from other suppliers had same construction. There is also that long arm to make 60-330mm gasket. They have larger set up to 60mm but this max. 30mm set is ok for me.
Hey, Guys, Oops!! I missed looking that closely, but can see it now! Thanks for the reply, and for the info. God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Nice punch set. I've been looking but seem to only be able to find very pricey sets. I'll keep looking, though, I may have to break down and fork over the cash for the punch. sam
I consider tools as an investment for 30-50 years. Sometimes they are in use for longer than that (I have some nice Bahco tools that I inherited from my father and grand fathers. Made in Sweden Bahco tools made from Kiruna steel last for ever ) I made some calculation if it makes sense to buy a Punch Kit. Every stove and lantern has average of 5 gaskets. Average price for one seal could be 2 eur. Postage for one gasket kit is around 5 eur from Europe to Finland. If I fettle 10 stoves and/or lanterns gaskets would cost (5*2 eur + 5 eur)*10 = 150 eur. I can use that same set to make other gaskets/seals also. Also it works for making more holes to my belt if I eat too much and my diameter is getting bigger (work for opposite direction also) I ended up to conclusion that set will pay itself within few years. It also saves my nerves when I can make gasket that I don't have instead of making order for it and wait it to arrive. Also I can make gaskets/seals and sell them to make some money. 8-[ I bought that set from Germany (from Conrad) for 172 eur including the shipment to here. (For German shops search for "Locheisen Satz") For this set I can get all parts separately so if I break or loose some part I can replaced it easily. There was no spares available for the other set that I was looking for so I got this one.
I bought a new punch kit off Ebay UK for £13.99 and it works fine. Not fancy but it does the job. It may not last 30 years but I've been using it since February and it's still as good as new. Terry
Peddinghaus was my other option: http://www.peddinghaus.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/PHV-12-Locheisensatze.pdf I was not able to find it's reseller here so I was not sure about getting spares (or bigger size cutter tubes if some day I would need one) 3-30mm Peddinghaus set was around 100eur. They have different sets for even and odd millimeters. That Facom set is only for even mms'.
Quality tools are a joy to own and use. Much like our beloved stoves, collecting and using tools just for the tools sake, can be a hobby in its own right. And while you can save money by purcasing whatever you might need, one shall not enderestimate the satisfaction of DIY. Best regards Stoveuser
Morning, Guys, I would LOVE to have a concentric gasket punch set like that! However, as money is tight, and there are far more pressing things that require our financial outlay, such a set is way beyond our means. The other problem is that if I DID come up with the money for such a set, I would probably rather spend it on a rare stove, if one came my way!! 8) I do believe that, having good tools is a definite plus. Just have to pick which tools are the most important, and which tools I have to admire from a distance, but never own. If someone can afford such sets, and I definitely think they are worth having. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
For those in the US there is a very good quality double punch set HERE for $100 if no one bids against you.
I have looked for one useful kit myself but I only found kits wich do not have all the punches I need. I bought some gaskets from FOGAS last week when I was in Stockholm (Älvsjö). The tank lid gaskets for the Primus 210 I needed was 17mm outer diam. and 7mm inner diam. plus 2mm thick. The kits I have found so far is lacking these punches. I also bought tank lid gaskets for the Optimus 111 wich was 18mm outer diam. and 10mm inner diam. plus 2mm thick. For this gasket the kit will do. I also bought a gasket for the little cap to the Optimus 00 burner fitting which was 12mm in diam. and 2mm thick. That gasket will also be made with the kits I have found. I will be looking for a more suitible kit before I buy one myself. Michael
I think that Peddinghaus "odd millimeters" set would work for those gaskets. It's article number 8004.31 in this brochure(2nd page): http://www.peddinghaus.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/PHV-12-Locheisensatze.pdf (edit) If you need to make even+odd millimeters you should buy two sets from Peddinhaus. Article numbers 8004.30 for even and 8004.31 for odd. That would complete solution to make all needed combination's for under 30mm. Looks that it's possible to combine cutter tubes from both sets so it would be possible to make f.ex. 9mm inner 20mm outer gasket.
Hi Boehm make excellent concentric punch kits. I have one of their smaller sets. They also sell individual punch cutters and the punch carrier. It should be possible to make up your own "stove washer set", and avoid the expense of never/rarely used sizes. http://www.boehm.fr/piece-detachee-sommaire.php They also have a NZ supplier: http://tradetools.co.nz/category/HCSC Perhaps CCS members could share an index of stove washer sizes and price a made-to-measure kit? Just a thought. Best Regards, Kerophile.
Boehm set looks very much same with Facom set so I think that Facom buys the sets from Boehm. That is good news since I can get Boehm odd size cutter tubes and use them in Facom handle. Facom don't offer odd size cutter tubes. Here is one old thread where Boehm set is used for making lead washers: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/15055
Some advice from someone who used to use Boehm/Mayhew cutters as a hobbyist - look after the smaller inner diameter cutters & eject the waste after every cut as they are prone to splitting if you don't. As mentioned you can buy them individually but prevention is better than spending more money! These kits will cover many washer sizes needed but for some washers you will find the combination of inner & outer size combinations a limiting factor & that's where custom made tooling comes into play For those who want to buy washers The Fettlebox will of course continue to offer a value for money service & quality materials!
I noticed that for NRV pip 4mm is too small and individual 5mm punch that I bought is too big. I thought something from the middle would be ideal. (me very smart ) I took some measurements from my punch set and I thought that maybe I'll try to make 4,5mm cutter for the chunk that is in my set. I found 15mm SS rod from my storage so I used it. Original 4mm cutter and cheap 4,5mm copy of it: Fits into handle/chunk: I tested it and it works. It's not hardened but for rubber it should work without problems. If the cutter looses it sharpness it's easy to resharpen in a lathe. Fettlebox above mentioned that some combinations are not possible with original parts of the set. By making cutters by self will give some help to that problem. Threaded inner cutters seems to be quite easy to make... Anyway I think that I'll find odd & imperial cutter set's from Boehm then I would be quite well covered. Missing ones I can make...
I have the same punch kit as Doc Mark. Unfortunately, Horror Fright no longer stocks it. The centering stylus on my set is loose and doesn't center very accurately so I made a new on on my lathe. I have a little Chinese copy of a good European lathe and have had a lot of fun cleaning it up and adjusting things so it is quite a lot more accurate than it was new. Mine has an 8" (20.32CM) swing X 12" (30.48CM) bed. I've had it for about ten years now. I also have a HF minimill and a box of tooling for each. I've also changed lead screws in each so they now measure in 1000ths of an inch instead of 100ths of a MM. Much easier for me as I was educated in thousandths of an inch from the start and at age 70 a change is nearly impossible although I try. I am very sure my old brain, all four working cells of it are fossilized and set as granite. The fun factor of making many of my own tools, stove and gun parts as well as car parts is worth every penny and hour I've spent and every cut and puncture I've acquired on them. The first thing I did on my lathe was take $5.00 worth of free machining brass and convert it into $1.00 worth of chips and swarf. My next lathe project is to make a ball turning tool. I found a website in England of all places by a young lady who is an excellent model engineer and has put out plans for really good modifications of these small lathes and tooling for them as well. She is much smarter than me and is as patient as a saint with my slow thinking. Gerry
