Pigeon Ignus Fettle need advise

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  1. berserker

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    Hello everyone,

    I received this nice PI recently and was trying to get going. I have dismantled, fettled and reassembled several times with no luck. I was hoping to figure it out myself but now need your advice. Here is what I have done:


    - Washed tank

    - used Coleman fuel

    - allowed a few minutes for the fuel to saturate the tank insides

    - preheated the burner with denatured alcohol in the preheat pan

    - had the spindle fully closed while preheating so the stove would build pressure

    - fuel cap gasket is pliable

    - made sure the jet was clear, not obstructed or fouled with dirt or crud

    - opened the spindle valve fully after preheating

    QUESTIONS:

    I am not sure how the throttle works with the long threaded pointy screw? I have removed the jet and opened closed opened the throttle but I cannot see anything going on at the site of the jet.

    How does the wick work. Does it just bring fuel to the jet?

    Is the rubber gasket the correct type for the fuel tank cap?

    Anyway, it is a nice clean stove, otherwise. I am very happy with it. Any assistance is much appreciated!!

    v/r

    Jim



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  2. Afterburner

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    Looks that at least fuel tank cap gasket is not in same place than in other similar stoves. Gasket should be on outer flange of the cap. So it should have wider inner hole that it would sit on correct position.

    DISCLAIMER: I don't have experience from that type of stove so my guessing can be wrong! Anyway all other tank caps that I have seen the gasket is on above mentioned position.
     
  3. Doc Mark

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    Hi, Jim.

    Here are two photos of my own Ignus and the fuel cap gasket that I used on it.

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    Disclaimer: I've not yet fired it up BUT, when I was rinsing the tank, with the fuel cap and its new gasket in place, fuel would squirt out of the jet when I opened the spindle. So, it appears to be working as it should. Of course, only by firing up my stove, will I know, for sure. But, just from what I've seen, the gasket I used seems to be the right size. Good luck, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    Doc must be right!

    When you get that small blue flame to the stove try to help fuel flow to burner by lifting up a little bit the non burner end of the tank to see if flame gets better/bigger.
     
  5. berserker

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    At first I suspected lack of pressure in the tank. But, now, something is definitely wrong with the burner assembly. Doc, you said fuel runs out of the nipple. Well, I removed the nipple with fuel in the tank and tilted the tank toward the burner. I cannot get fuel to run out of the hole where the nipple plugs in :shock: That's not right.
     
  6. Doc Mark

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    Hi, Jim,

    Actually, the fuel shoots skyward out of the jet in a strong stream, once I warm the fuel tank with my hands. Have you removed your burner from the fuel tank? Might want to do that, and see if you can access the wick that way. Again, I've not done that sort of maintenance so far, and I don't know, for sure. But, it sounds like that might be the way to go. Talk soon, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc

    P.S. looking at your photos again, you already did remove the burner. Did you blow through it, to see if air passes freely? how about the wick, of what is it made? From the photo, if the wick is fiber, it looks like it might be charred, and if so, it would not draw fuel to the burner as it should, I'm thinking. Hummmm.... I look forward to hearing what you did in this vein.
     
  7. berserker

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    Doc,

    The wick appears to be a very fine wire. It is in good condition. The tube from the tank doesn't appear to be obstructed, however, it seems no fuel is getting to the area of the jet. All I did was soak the assembly in kero and cleaned out the throttle area and fuel tube.

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  8. Doc Mark

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    Hey, Jim,

    Thanks for the good photo of the wire wick. One end looks dirty; the left end. Is that what is in contact with the burner fuel tube? Did you scrub that wire wick down really good with a stiff brush? Again, I don't know, for sure, but it looks dirty enough to inhibit fuel flow a bit. I need to check mine, to see how it looks, compared to yours, but can't do that right now. Talk soon and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Dpc

    P.S. Check in the Stove Gallery, as I seem to recall that someone posted some comments about the wicks, that might prove helpful to you. I need to look again, too, but just don't have time right now.