Greetings, All, I have a nice Coleman 413E, and prefer that size stove to the smaller 425 series (of which I have several versions). I'm considering picking up another 413E, but wonder which of the 413 Tribe is the best cooking stove. Which version of the 413 is your favorite, and why? I have seen 413G's on offer for around $10, but sometimes prefer the older versions of some stoves. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Doc, I agree, you can do some real cooking on the 413 whereas the 425 gets a bit crowded with decent sized cookware. But, I grew up family camping with the 425 so I also have few of those. Functionally there probably is not that much difference but I like my 413G just because I find the burner grate somewhat interesting. Perhaps it really is just a matter of what appeals to your eye -- like style of fuel tank, that "towel rack" thingy, etc. They are cheap and plentiful, but the downside to collecting too many of them is that they also occupy a lot of storage space.
Hey, Itchy, Thanks for the shout! Like you, I find the small 425 stoves enticing and fun. But, also like you, I've found them a bit cramped for larger cooking pots and skillets. That's why the 413 is attractive to me. I guess I'll keep my eyes open for a good deal on a 413, and decided on the version when the time comes. Thanks, again, Itchy, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
I'm fond of the older round gold tanks, and thus my 413D is the only 413 series I have (at the moment). Once upon a time I too found the G grill interesting, but that time passed, and I am back to the D. My only two burner, smaller stove is a Poloron, kinda like a Thermos stove, it get used, but if you really want to cook something you do need the bigger stove.
Doc, I don't think there's really any difference in performance in the various 413s. I think the burners are all the same, just various production shortcuts to save the odd $.005 per unit in the making. Do yourself a favor though and get a 426. Once you go with a three-burner you'll never go back. I find my camp kitchen now days usually has a three-burner as the main stove a 413 or 425 on one side and a couple of single burners for the odd pots of this or that. Breakfast cooking on the 3-burner, big kettle on one burner of the 413, oatmeal on the other and another pot of water heating on one of the singles. Granted breakfast is being made for 8-15 folks who all have slightly different requests, coffee, tea, hot chocolate for the youngers, eggs, sausage, oatmeal, you get the idea. Also I like to have some hot water ready so the cleanup crew can get into action as soon and the eating is done.
Howdy, cottage hill bill, Good to meet you, and thank you for your suggestion on the 426. I agree that the 426 family of stoves is outstanding, and in truth, have four of them!! I have: 1 - 426 1 - 426A 1 - 426B 1 - 426D We have used our 426D for many years of faithful service, and it's outstanding. I've used it for our Christmas lobsters for a very long time, and even in the snow and ice, it always does a wonderful job on those tasty crustaceans!! So, as you can see, I pretty well have the 426 family of stoves covered nicely. Now, I want to add another 413 to the family, and may well have found one that may come to live with us. Thanks, again, for your kind words, and your excellent suggestion, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Doc, the 413H and E are my favorite go to stoves. well made excellent materials and simply reliable like Coleman stoves are meant to be. the 425's are just fine too, but what was said above goes, they take up space. i usually have too many 425's around the shop so i give them away to friends and relatives when i can. cooking dinner at home i use the 413's. you won't be disappointed with a 413H. of course if you cook for a big tribe the 426 is very handy. the burners are hotter i guess too. Doc, you can't beat the 413's. red tank round tank there'll all good.
the 413e is a great stove because the extendable legs keep the heat away from the table that you might use to set it on and multi adjustable legs are great for unlevel surfaces
Good Morning, All, Many thanks for the excellent suggestions on getting another 413. Like many of you, I really like my 413E, and would gladly have bought another one, but that's not how it turned out. I found a nice Gentleman who had a 413G to sell, but the photos he provided seemed to show that it had had it's lid closed whilst the burner(s) were still going, and the lid, inside and out, looked to be scorched a bit. Still, the rest of the stove looked to be little used, so I took a chance. During our day of running errands down the mountain, yesterday, I drove to his house and checked out the stove. Turned out that the stove HAS been used very little, and that the black scorch marks that looked nasty in the photos, do not actually exist!! So, because the stove was in excellent knick, and because the asking price of this Gentleman was only $10, I jumped on it like a chicken on a June Bug!!! 8) Upon getting it back home, I inspected it more carefully, and the stove looks to be excellent condition, and should work like a champ, once the pump leather is oiled up a bit. The fuel tank does sound like there is something inside it, other than a bit of Coleman Fuel, however, as I hear something rolling around, like a couple of BB's, maybe. I'll check that out, and if necessary, remove the valve on top to dump out whatever is in there. In any case, I'm a "Happy Chappy" with my new 413G, and think it was an excellent purchase, for my $10!! I found another stove whilst down the mountain, too, but I'll post that one in it's own thread. Thanks, again, for the comments, Gents, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc P.S. Yesterday's success, in finding two stoves, both for excellent prices, just further supports what I've always said, "The more you hunt, the more you will find stoves"!!! There are stunning deals still out there, if an enterprising Stovie is willing to get out and seek them!! 8)
Morning, Ken, Yeah, there's always room for "one more stove"!! This one is going to be a user, actually. On our Thanksgiving trip down to San Diego, I took our old 426D, and also a favorite 425, to do some auxiliary cooking on Mom's back patio. The 426, as always worked a treat. But, the little 425 proved to be too small to do what we needed it to do. The Coleman oven I used on it just did not fit as well it could have, and the pumpkin pie backed in that oven, though very tasty, was scorched a bit on two sides, due to the poor oven to stove fit. That's when I decided it was time to get another 413 stove, as they are just large enough to work well with the Coleman oven, and larger pots and skillets, like we used in San Diego. I'll be getting rid of some of my other Coleman suitcase stoves, and have already gifted one to a wonderful Gentleman from our church. The others, I will probably sell, for a good price, and thereby, only keep the ones I plan to use and enjoy. I might get rid of my 425's, but am still thinking about that...... Thanks for the laugh, Ken!! Talk soon, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Mark
passing the 425's along to "new to stoves" persons is good for everybody. you free up space , they get a stove to use, work on , take apart-clean and so forth. good karma is priceless. buzz
I have one 413g and two 426d's the 426d's are the ultimate solution to you're cramped 425 woes. It's not that much bigger than the 413. One thing that I generally do at summer parties is cover two of the three burners with a water buffered hotel pan to keep the grilled meat hot. I still have one burner for salt potatoes in a large pot. It works well. The 413 is the perfect size for use with a hotel pan by itself.
111T yes i have a steam pan from our restaurant days. it will hold a ton of BBQ Pork or beans and the 413 is perfect for keeping things warm. buzz
a friend just bought a 413F from fleabay. it doen't have the usual grease drip shelf, but does have the pul out legs. i havn't used this 413F but looks like a well built stove buzz
Hi Doc, FWIW... We have been using a garage sale find 413-D for many many years now. What I love about the D stove, and I am sure others would agree are its key features, are: * the heavy gauge construction. It has survived being tossed about in the back of our trucks during many very rough 4-WD trips. It has also cooked for big groups at innumerable beach parties where it is not treated very nicely. Although dented, scratched, rusted from sea salt, and occasionally solder repaired, it just keeps-a-going. * We love the clever top-lid latch that also turns the top-lid into a table of sorts. Because of the heavy-gauge construction, this surface can actually be useful. * The ability to raise the stove via the extensible legs is occasionally very useful. * The big cooking area is priceless. If you put the lid down, you can use a large skillet and still have room for a kettle or pot next door. Of course these features are common to most of the 413 family, so I am certainly not telling you anything you dont already know. Mostly these are indictments against the newer thinner-gauge stoves that lack legs. The one thing that I truly dislike about our 413-D is the concave tank-end design (concave where the pump is located). The dished end invariably collects dirt, sand, water, barbeque sauce, dew, general schmutz, and always seems to turn into a pool of fuel at re-filling time. Naturally some portion of all this junk finds its way into the pump tube. Also, the pump cap (attached by a "C"-clip rather than a threaded piece) does a poor job of protecting the pump tube from invading foreign micro-objects. Also, filling the tank when it is standing on-end can be irksome if no absolutely flat/smooth area is available. I find that instead of just chucking the stove into a corner of the garage after a trip that I have to spend time disassembling the pump, cleaning the cup, and giving the tank end a good cleaning. No big deal mostly. But if I fail to do my part, I may be sorry next trip when that cleaning has to be done in the dark at some rainy campsite before I can get dinner started. Other tank designs (top fillers) are much more hygienic and convenient. I think the idea of recessing the pump and filler cap has merit, as they are protected from physical damage, but the down-side of collecting dirt was not considered. I love the look of the old-style tank, so I doggedly keep using it despite its minor drawbacks. All the early 413's that I've encountered seem to work well- and about equally (are the generators or burners at all different?). But, truthfully, the tank is a bit annoying in practice. Let us know what you think once you get some experience with this style of tank. My 2 cents.
New member here, and fairly new to Coleman stoves (of the gas sort, anyway). I have my grandfather’s old (1973) 413G that I’m cleaning up. And I just last week found (and bought!) a brand new 1981 413H. I’m looking forward to putting them both to good use. I am interested in which models folks think are the best…and why.
Nice specimen. Functionally, they are all about the same. The older, the heavier. The cases get thinner as the alphabet progresses. Lighter can be better. I like heavy an solid. I DO like the windscreen retainers on this model though. The steel is just too thin for my taste. It all comes down to personal preference. What's best depends on your opinions. I would have a hard time bringing myself to fire this one up when I can get a beater that will run just as good. This will command some serious $$ someday in this condition. I wouldn't blame you if you did fire it up. They are meant to be used. It's just so clean!! Haha!
