Evening stove lovers, When starting this hobby I was warned about it' s effects. I Know I'm weak; just bought another. The seller only wanted to part with his Optimus if I took his entire hiking equipment and so I end up with yet another tent (although a very nice cotton trekking tent from '72), pots and pans, plates, spoons, cups, fuelbottles and more. But it' s a very nice one, I guess, so I'm happy with it. The 99 looks to be a bit more versatile than the laquered ones. Just looks, it' s probably just the feeling that you can' t chip any paint off. Just have to see if I can get it to burn just a bit hotter. Greetings, Frank |imgRemoved|
Dear Frank, Collecting stoves and pan sets along with 70's tents in a silly thing to do. Stop it now Send me all your stoves etc and I'll hide them from you Regards, Alan
Excuse the ignorance, but that 99 looks just about the same as an 8R to my untutored eyes. Is it just that the 8R is in it's own fixed steel box, whereas the 99 has an aluminium top that can be removed and used as a cooking pot - or are there other differences my lampie brain just doesn't register...
David, The 99 IS the 8R. The alu box is a bit lighter, can be used to cook with (if you don't mind the fuel smell) , and includes a removable wind-shield. Also larger pots may be used, as the lid on a 8R interferes somewhat. HTH
Hi Steve and David The 99 is indeed all that David describes, but I don't see why it can use bigger pans than the 8R If you bend the lid of the 8R back to the ground both stoves are exactly the same . . .aren't they ? I don'thave a 99 but sold a lot years ago mainly because they are lighter than the 8R. If anyone who bought one from Roger Turners, Leicester in 1976 would return it to me ( with receipt, of course ) I will give a full refund in exchange for the stove if in full working order etc
I've got two 8R's, neither will open fully flat. The hinge design, or rather lack of it, keeps the lid elevated somewhat. same with the 111. This is probably done on purpose, to restrict the size of pots? Otherwise, the only design flaw in a perfectly delightful implement!
Interesting Steve, I have 3 x 8r and one 111, all open out flat. In fact I've been thinking of adding a lid prop along the lines of the 96/210 sport to hold them in 'wind shield' mode. Do you think the 8r/111 boxes might vary by year or intended market/country.
Hi, Congratulations on your newly found vice of collecting stoves! Don't we all practice a little bit of moral turpitude when shiny brass is involved! I am sure you will enjoy 99. Without having to diassembling the stove for overhauling--which will no doubt bring it to the full potential--you can start by filling the tank only to the lower part of the lip inside the tank. Then squirt a little of alcohol under the tank between it and the burner, when you prime it. That heats up and pressurizes the tank. The flame reaches the near max output from the beginning. The "laquered ones"--8R's, I assume, supposed to use its lid of the clamshell design as the windshield. But over the years of use or abuse, they seem to fall over--which allows the use of a wider pots and pans, but there is a limit to the max useable diameter, because of the burner size. The hot spot is not as big as needed, when you use too big a pan. And it takes too long to boil--meaning, using too much fuel from the limited size of the tank. I have one 99 but many 8R's, because I do not have to worry about the loose lid. And I found the alu lid dents too easily. And I use a separate cookset, so I the lid has never suffered boiling water in it.
Hi jc, I guess that they start out nice and tight and with use, get looser! And I guess stove tins do also... As far as propping up the loose ones, I recommend my patented 'Stove Rock', available everywhere!!!
