Anybody up for talkin' Optimus 80 tins? A couple member comments are referenced but this is just an open question to anyone that might want to comment on this riddle. Here we have a tin comment is "This just happens to be the design used before they switched to to the rounded cornerered drop front, flip lid we usually associate with this model." [I believe this is accurate] AND combining this comment w/one below dates the above tin to approx. "up to" mid fifties [also accurate me thinks] (1 could say '53 also). https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/14416 The earliest version of that "drop front, flip lid" I believe is this and the comment is "This price would date the advert, and hopefully the stove, to the mid 1950s" [I believe this is also accurate] https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/10876 Now comes the riddle, re the illustration of the Op 80 tin in the 57 catalog. What is that? Yes catalogs often used outdated illustrations BUT this illustration does not show either of the tins above. Does any member have any knowledge of an Op 80 tin like that? Does it even exist? I'll toss in my guess, that is, it doesn't exist. "What do you think?" thx omc
Yup, I believe that is a silver/gray tin. Unsure of the era/age though/ A pro will be along shortly... OOPS, My mistake, the silver ones are Primus 70/71's...
Hello again all, The question is, what do you think? IS THERE an Optimus 80 tin such as shown in '57 catalog? (or what's your guess, I guess not). Hi Baja, Thanks. Hmmm, true enough these guys DID ALWAYS copy each other! So, the Primus angle... if (year(s) pass and) we find, there's NO such Optimus tin... without that, your comment IS re a tin that DOES most resemble the '57 illustration. Your comment lead me to the 52 Primus illustration and maybe as close as we get. https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/11497 So, there IS that, with that said the Optimus illustration is from '57. The '56 Primus illustration is their newer slotted tin. https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/11210 I want to add what I feel is a noteworthy side comment, above, THAT IS THE END of the PRIMUS No.71. The '56 depicts the "last" Primus-made P71 tin, ALSO showing the "last" Primus made Primus 71. I hope I'm not mistaken, that the circa 56 P71 and a '62 are identical except the dating. thx again omc
Yep, I would have to agree that stove tin in question is a 71 case illustration with an 80 stove inserted. Looks funny to me. I have several of the stoves with the old-style cases like that in Primus 71. Probably artists were already collaborating (stealing) quite a bit back then. They *did* manage to get the stove right with the correct control key, engraving, fuel cap, and so on. sam
If you take close look at the Optimus catalogue in question, the stove being put in the rucsac pocket is the earlier rounded tin as shown in first picture of the thread. That's the one with the stripes & holes. With the new shaped tin I think the artist has got the new shape but assumed the stripes & holes of the old style. Maybe.
Aw geez, my update is more bad. The '57 illustration does not show it well but it HAS TO have a flat section on the back to accommodate the top's hinge. The stove shown in side pocket of the backpack is ROUNDED back (like the early to mid fifties tin!) so there are 2 different stoves shown in that SAME illustration. It is still my "guess" that he maybe drew a tin that doesn't exist. If I try to give him a little credit, maybe there was a proto type that didn't get to production? thx omc edit Spiritburner and I posted near same time and I agree. Idaho's point is bolstered too btw, the pot supports with slot in front appears to be sourced from P71 drawing. The coincidences add up. I can't speak for others but my sense is there "may" be 4 posters here inline with guess that that Optimus 80 tin doesn't exist.
