It's a challenge, even with a funnel, to fill a stove from a SIGG bottle. This is especially so, if the bottle is full to the top. This little gadget will help you to make the task easy: Upper side and underside. On my very old SIGG bottle: These 1 litre bottles were made as hot water bottles (to warm up the bed) 60 and more years ago. I used this one as a spare canister on the motorcycle and for the stoves. In transport position: Pouring is very easy, even when the bottle is full. A funnel is not necessary. I cut this shape out from a bit of the inner tube of a tyre. A children play ball may also be used or many other elastic materials. The spout I fixed with some sewing stitches. You may find the left or the right shape more suitable, it depends much from the material you use: If you want to use a funnel as well, the following pictures show, how to make foldable funnels for many purposes. The coated cardboard is quite durable. Manufacturers warning notice: Pour the juice into the stovie, never into the stove! Radler
Radler, that flexible bottle funnel is brilliant in its simplicity, and efficiency. Thank you for sharing your ideas.
Excellent idea! I hate those bottles with round/too bulky mouth(Sigg, Primus, Optimus, Edelrid...). I noticed that MSR bottles are machined from the mouth so that pouring from them works quite nicely without funnel or other additional accessories. There is also commercial version from fordable funnel: http://www.lauche-maas.eu/german/faltbarer-trichter-s.html I have one and it works ok.
Trangia cap is quite perfect for a "clean pouring". There was some discussion that it doesn't fit to all fuel bottles: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/28882 Fuel bottle with Trangia cap needs a little bit more care that fuel bottle with normal cap when stored in backpack/sledge. Trangia cap can be broken more easily since the nut part extends out from the cap. Not a big issue, but for safety it's better to be careful.
Sigg have been making there own pouring stout cap for years. I've copped this design and made the caps myself. http://www.ansco.com.au/Screw-Cap-Pouring-Spout-by-Sigg-p/sigcs.htm Si
Hi Radler, clever and innovative! I'm going to make one from some white nitrile rubber sheet I bought in error for tank cap gaskets. Does your SIGG bottle have an embossed logo on the bottom? I'm trying to match one I have in order to date it. Cheers B
I like this. Simple yet elegant. There are drawbacks to many of the commercial designs. Trangia: fragile, and can drip some fuel after it's been closed. Olicamp: Sometimes doesn't seal well, and I guess could be fragile too. Sigg: pour spout needs to be substituted for solid cap for transport. I've used the olicamp and, today I mostly use the trangia cap, but usually substitute it for a solid cap for transport. Radlers design does away with the fuss, is cheap enough to have several, and allows the proper sealing cap to be used for transport. You can even leave it in place if you mount a pump to the bottle. Ingenious. Only downside I can see, it might smell a lot of kero after use due to its large surface in contact with the fuel. Is that a problem, Radler?
Kero can be wiped with a piece of paper towel. After that paper towel burns nicely. Burned paper towel is a sign that "Stovie has left the camp" and/or "Stovie was here".
Elegant, Radler, like all the best engineering solutions. That's certainly something I'll be making at the next opportunity. Thank you. John
My older msr bottles with the non CARB compliant tops have two holes in the threads specifically designed for pouring. I've used one to fill my zippo lighter with coleman fuel for going on two years now. No issues at all. I really like the funnel ideas though. I'll keep them in mind if I have any dratted child safe lids along.
Thanks for all your compliments! It would be interesting to see pictures of your home made spouts for SIGG bottles. @Caveman Yes, the bottle on my pictures has the embossed logo on the bottom: SIGG and below SWITZERLAND in very small letters (not visible on the picture). I own a second, very similar, hot water bottle for 1½ litres, but it has no logo. Maybe that one is not a SIGG, but a imitation. It has other traces on its surface, they are longitudinal, not equatorial as they are on the SIGG bottle. I think it would be very difficult to date your bottle. Sigg started in 1908 as a producer of pans, milk cans, pressure cookers, hotties and many other things made of aluminium alloy. The first bottle for hikers was designed in 1910. In 1958 they produced several thousands of products for household, kitchen and sports. In 1980 the first single coloured bottles were made, in 1992 the bottles with printed decorations appeared. Since 1998, SIGG is producing bottles only. I found this video, http://youtu.be/Kf3TUDjP0H0 which gives a short view of products first (maybe in 1945), and shows the production process (Comment in German). This video shows the process only, but better and with English comment. http://youtu.be/J_Rnf_aKd-0 @pysen78 You asked: I avoid this problem by always filling the stove after cooking. The most unpleasant thing is, to have the fingers wet with kerosene or fuel gasoline when cooking and eating and no water tab within reach. Hence I fill my stoves always before I go to sleep. In the morning even kerosene has dried away. Radler
Radler, I finally got around to making one last weekend. Works beautifully, no more dripping mess. I even made one for the 1 gallon Coleman fuel cans I buy; much better pouring control on those too. Thanks again, KMK
Have you ever seen one of those wine pouring discs? It's basically a small flexable metalic disc that you fold and slip into a bottle of wine to help pour it neatly and without spill. http://www.amazon.com/Drop-Stop-Wine-Spout-Packaging/dp/B000Q9857U You can do the same with a piece of tinfoil. Also, UCO and MSR make a pour spot cap just like the trangia\sigg spout with that flips open and closed, this way you can just use the one cap. I believe it's called the UCO fuel faucet.
