HERE is a Nalgene brochure which provides more detailed information on the compatibility of the various plastics used in their containers. It breaks down hydrocarbons into aliphatic, aromatic, halogenated. It shows that Nalgene's HDPE bottles are good for aliphatic hydrocarbons but not recommended for aromatic hydrocarbons. Regular gasoline is a mixture of both aliphatic and aromatic hydrocarbons. Coleman fuel on the other hand is processed to remove the aromatic hydrocarbons. Therefore small Nalgene HDPE bottles such as THESE would probably work well for you.
2 stroke oil, for my chain saw, comes in a small 'plastic' fuel resistant container. The only problem I see is the seal. The ones I get have a seal on the bottle. You could use yellow fuel resistant 'teflon' tape when you fill it to reduce the chance of a leak in the pack. And no confusion that it may be a drinkable liquid. Ken in NC [ I just read Ben's post so maybe not for gasoline]
If cost is no object you can't go wrong with THIS Nalgene container. FEP Teflon is impervious to just about everything.
Quart size Coleman Fuel comes in a #2 HDPE plastic container. 2 cycle oil also comes in a #2 HDPE container. You get a nice 3.2 oz container and the oil too so Ken's post seems like good advice. As to my nip bottle suggestion would anyone really confuse delicious Casamigo Reposado Tequila with Coleman fuel? Highly unlikely!
I have an Optimus 96 which obviously uses paraffin/kerosene, but I don't expect Coleman Fuel/petrol/gasoline would behave much different For a bit of extra fuel I use some hard plastic bottles that previously held 125mlshampoo. For a larger amount I use the small fizzy drinks bottles aimed at children, usually 250 or 300 ml And I haven't had a problem with either of them. The beauty of these bottles is that when they're empty, or nearly so, you can just burn them along with rubbish & a few bits of twigs 1ml = 0.034 US fl
I just spoke to the tech dept. at the Nalgene company and was told that Coleman fuel in an HDPE bottle would be fine. Good news! Thanks for all the suggestions.
When it comes to HDPE, are their different types/qualities? z1ulike says that Nalgene states that their HDPE bottles are not suitable for aromatic hydrocarbons, but HDPE has been used for automotive fuel tanks for some time and its use is increasing. This includes all types of petrol (gasoline) and diesel.
Trangia makes plastic fuel bottles with the smallest one at 10 oz. It's too large but the safety cap is excellent, no need for a funnel and no spillage at all. Are there really no smaller bottles with the same cap thread?
From what I gather difference between HDPE Nalgene bottles and HDPE automotive tanks for gasoline storage is mostly a matter of thickness. Gasoline will take less time to permeate a thin Nalgene bottle than it will a thick automobile fuel tank. Even so, gasoline still gets through monolayer HDPE automobile fuel tanks and they will not meet future permeation requirements. The makers of such tanks are using either multi-layer or barrier technologies to get around this problem. Multi-layering sandwiches more resistant materials between layers of HDPE. Barrier technologies creates a chemical barrier to slow the gasoline permeation. You can find a good overview of plastic vs steel fuel tanks HERE.
Nalgene used to make a fuel bottle back in the day... Long discontinued and pretty large iirc. I've noticed that overseas Coleman fuel is sold in what appears to be Pete water bottles. Some of these cute mini soda pop bottles might work. Be sure to mark it clearly obviously. I wonder if Zippo fluid burns in a Svea? Coleman fuel works in lighters. But that doesn't necessarily mean the reverse would work.
That article on plastic versus steel fuel tanks is very good and indicates the problems encountered in the non-permeation of the fuel. Although nothing to do with this thread, it was interesting to see the comparison with both types in a car accident. Both have positives and both negatives. The article was written nearly 20 years ago and I wonder if there have been more advances in the HDPE technology.
I have the 500 & 1000ml Nalgene fuel bottles. They are rare now! As someone who's had petrol sitting in a hdpe container for 5 years I'd not worry for 3 days.
i must agree . never had a problem , the scepter Mil Spec gerry cans are the only ones that several military forces will carry on planes . USA and Canada , i have been informed , also used a lot here in AUS . kerry
HDPE that has been fluorinated is stable for long term use with gasoline. There are 5 levels of fluorination, depending on what level of resistance to molecular diffusion is required. Here's a link to some obvious choices for fuel carrying: Fluorinated Platic Bottles There are probably many other choices if you spend some time searching the universe. Years ago I purchased several red nalgene bottles (16 oz and 32 oz) that were briefly marketed for use with gasoline. They have a pour spout that nests inside the mouth of the bottle (see pics). They are marked "NYL" on the bottom. I *think* that these are a nylon-polyethylene blend that may be known in the plastics industry as a "barrier bottle". Anyway, these bottles are still going strong 25 years later after constant use with gasoline and kerosene. I dont know if they are still available, but if you see one grab it! This plastic will fail if used with alcohol. One caution- some fluorinated bottles may not come with fluorinated caps, or may even come with a cap made of a non gasoline-resistant material (e.g. polypropylene). So check the cap material before you buy.
I like storing coleman fuel in one of those red plastic Trangia fuel bottles. They are used mostly for alcohol but the bottle says you can store gas in it. They are really nice because of the superbe safety/dispensing valve on it that makes it really easy to pour without spillage.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RONSON-LI...L-REFILL-/321451581367?_trksid=p2054897.l4275 works fine and you can refill the tin.
I have 3 or 4 of those in the 500 ml size. I see they are discontinued, I buy them when ever I see them. I use those for kerosene, the Trangia (with the push valve) for alcohol, and MSR/SIGG metal for Coleman fuel. I do also have some 'plastic' Coleman bottles in 1 Quart size with Coleman fuel. Alcohol seems to wipe the writing (Sharpie pen) from the containers. I found a gold color pen at an office supply store that is not cleaned with alcohol. So the marking is not 'gone' when the alcohol spills onto the container. I have a Ronson container with lighter fluid that is 'plastic', not metal. The Heinze/Geniol/Bunn stove(s) I got each came with a 'plastic' fuel container. German military must have thought it was good enough for them. And this .... Zippo Fuel Canister May be too small, but, that depends on the use. Ken in NC
Ken, Not that you were going to... but FWIW don't put alcohol into those red Nalgene bottles- it ruins them pretty quickly (just like the warning says).
That's odd...mine says you can store alcohol in it. That's what I've used it for ever since I bought it...still going strong.
