Info on Hungarian Perpetum stove?

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  1. Doc Mark

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    Greetings, All,

    Recently, I bought a nice Hungarian Perpetum stove from a CCS friend up in Canada. It has now arrived, and I like it quite a bit. It was very hard to remove the pump tube cap, but persistence paid off, and when I could finally remove the pump rod, I found the leather to be in almost brand new condition. Pleasant surprise! Also, the NRV is like nothing else I've yet seen. I'll take photos, and post them as soon as time allows. For now, I soaked the pump leather in olive oil for about 8 hours, reinstalled it, and gave a single pump, which produced a soft, gentle hiss from the jet! Oh, YEAH! So, having plugged the jet orifice with the tip of my little finger, I gave the Perpetum several healthy pumps, and listened for leaks. None detected, I removed my finger from the jet, and VOILA, and nice strong column of air streamed forth!!!! I have a feeling that, with just a few more small things to do, this stove will work wonderfully!

    However, in my casting about for information about this Hungarian stove, I've found next to nothing here at CCS. Does anyone have a source for more info on the Perpetum stove? I'd surely like to know more about it. Sadly, mine is not engraved, at all, and the only place to find "Perpetum" is on the pot support ring. However, my stove, aside from having a silent burner, is close to identical to the single example in the Stove Reference Gallery, and it is engraved very nicely. Any help, or information about this stove will be greatly appreciated!! Many thanks, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    So YOU got that stove!!! At least it is in good hands. Cant wait to see the flame shot.


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    All I know is Perpetum means forever in English

    I'll have a look around for some info. Only seen the roarer burner. It is also stamped on the tank isn't
    It always looked like it had been painted gold to me. The other one on the web looks like that too

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    Hey Jeff....wouldnt Perpetum be Latin?


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    But it does mean forever in English!
     
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    Morning, Dave, Jeff, and All,

    Dave, yes, it was me. Sorry if you were going for that stove, too. When another CCS Stovie beats me out of a stove, I am always happy that at least it went to a good home. I hope you feel that way, too.

    Jeff, of course, you are right. The tank does have "Perpetum" engraved on it, in two places, but I guess what I meant to say was that it is not engraved, "Made in Hungary", which is a minor point. But, lacking further info on this stove, it would have been nice to actually tie it to the homeland of my Great Grandparents. When I have more info about the Perpetum, that will suffice, too. By the way, I do think that the word "Perpetum" is Latin, and the translation I got was that it means, "unbroken, perpetual, lasting, continuous, uninterrupted", which is the same as what Jeff wrote about it, when he translated it as "forever". That's a good bit of fun, for me, as my personal motto is in Latin, and the specific phrase I chose, "In Deo Sperabo"(In God I will Trust), is a guiding principle in my life. I've had it engraved on all my Living History powder horns, too, just for fun!

    I look forward to learning more about this stove, and to getting it up and running. That won't happen until the middle of next week, however, due to work demands.

    Jeff, many thanks, once again, for this very interesting stove!! I am eager to learn more about it, and to actually use it, hopefully, to cook up some of my Grandmother's Hungarian recipes!! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
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    Hi Mark. I looked up the Hungarian for "stove" which came up as "Tűzhely". When I searched for Perpetum Tűzhely on Google it switched the search to Perpetuum. The web results came back in Hungarian, but the same search under 'images' shows lots of pictures of domestic ranges. I wonder if the same company made your stove? Some of the ranges are marked 'neo-perpetuum'. An image search on that reveals even more ranges, but no brassies! Of course, 'perpetuum' in Hungary may be as common as 'Acme' in the US. :lol:

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    Hey, Terry,

    Thanks for the interesting information. I'll certainly check that out, and see where it leads me. I know a few Hungarian folks, whom I met through Living History, and will contact them to see if they can help in this. Otherwise, my Mom no longer speaks much Hungarian, and none of my other Hungarian relatives are still alive.

    Did the stove/ranges you found list any sort of dating, or manufacturing location? I'll check all that out as soon as I can. Thank you, very much, for that info, Terry1

    By the way, our prayers for Luke and your daughter and family continue on a daily basis, and it was wonderful to read the good news you recently shared with us here at CCS!! May Luke's positive progress continue, and even escalate, and may he very soon be back in good, solid, health again!! Best to you and Lin, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Mark (who's ready for another Joshua Tree camping with you guys!!)
     
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    Small update:

    The fuel tank on my Perpetum stove is made of steel, and coated with a brass plating, or brass wash, over which it appears lacquer was applied. More later....

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    Good Morning, All,

    I am hoping that some information will be found on the Hungarian Perpetum stove, and to that end, now have a friend in Hungary that is going to try and help with research on his end!! I am very tickled about this, and hope it will bear fruit in the form of more info on the stove, and the company which manufactured it, as well as when all this took place. I'll definitely share any and all information that comes to hand, if anything is forthcoming. Keep your fingers crossed, Friends!! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    If only stoves can talk.

    Thanks for keeping us updated