Hi, A while back I received a dog of a stove in the post from as good stove brother, which had as it's burner a brand spanking new Hipolito adjustable burner. "How easy would it be to convert this to a roarer type burner" i pondered .. Sorry for the poor quality photo, it's late and I'm tired. Basically, remove inner and outer caps, pop on a flame ring from a n.1 and sit a burner plate from a n.96 on top of this. I haven't tried to get a flame from it .. yet, first chance tomorrow I'll try that. I know it's not the neatest arrangement, but it's just an idea. Something might come of it yet. Trying to get the best of both worlds without breaking the bank. Nighty night. Spudzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
If you take the flame ring and spreader plate off wrap them up and post to south wales - re-fit the usual burner caps - then all will be well....
Fine stuff! Go for it. I've been working along similar lines recently with a 111 silent which has been a persistent underburner, (the top of the burner is buckled and the outer cap doesn't sit properly). Go for it, mate, and let us know how it burns.
Hey Spudz, Your idea was exactly the same with my though. But I was thinking to cut the central tube on the silent burner. This will allow lower height. And then you will need a flame spreader with longer legs. Don't stop I keep us informed. Best regards, Sefa
Well here it is. As I said, not the most elegant arrangement, but the bloody thing works The tone of the roar is very 'Barry White', maybe not a full octave below the 'normal' roar, but low non the less. Observations: 1 Not a very stable arrangement, the flame ring from the n.1 sits better on the burner bowl when turned upside down, but is thus too short. The Burner plate then sits on the inner tube of the silent burner, cutting off the flow of fuel! 2 The burner plate from the 96 is too small, could do with one a few mil bigger in diameter. Does such a thing exist? 3 I like the idea a lot !! Total flexibility, silent at home, singing outdoors. Just need to find a flame ring ...... wait a minute !! EPIPHANY TIME Flame ring from n.1 inverted with a flame ring from a n.210 inserted into it, pop the 96 burner onto that!! No time now ... gotta scrub the bairns before bed time. " Tomorrow, tomorrow, I'll try it tomorrow ..... la la la la laaa di daaaaa" Later .... Ed sir, I think you might find this of interest, a Hipoflam / Bufolito 2 pinter with silent adjustable burner. I removed the original burner from the Buflam that I acquired during the summer back in Ireland, and added the Hipolito Adjustable Silent that Doc Mark sent me some months back. I think I may have found my ideal domestic stove Obviously, using the silent burner has increased the height of the of the burner with respect to the pot stands. A large diameter pot will still sit above the top of the burner, (you might be able to pass a sheet of paper through the gap) due to the height difference at the edge of the pot supports. Smaller diameter pots i.e. my coffee moka would sit on the top of the burner, so I need to use the pot ring. Now, if I could couple this with the wind resistance idea of Colin's that can be found Fettling Database Sticky, then it might be the complete stove, a wind resistent silent with a roarer option. Which then begs the Q. 'if the silent burner is wind resistant, then what need for a roarer?' Oh my head hurts. Goodnight Spudz
Spudz, all stoves are wind resistant, if you use a wind shield. If you are worried about waking up the people next door, use a 111T, if, like me, you like a little sound when you cook, use a roarer; if you want silent, use a Trangia 25 or 27. Sorry mate, I just don't understand the need to change a proven design model. I'm not a stove purist, but I do believe in the old saying "if it's not broke, don't fix it"
The coversion I have is a pucker Trangia conversion, so, Ian, you could ask the same of the guy who put together the Kap Arctic?
Boy, that takes me back! I lived outside Napoli back in the 70's. The Buffalo herd to'ing and fro'ing down the road outside the house... Dripping bags of Mozzarella hanging out front of the store... 8) Another trip on the 'wayback' machine!!!
Sorry chaps, seems I'm in the wrong again, I won't mention conversions again, my mistake, I apologize to all concerned
Nothing at all wrong with conversions. We are where we are today re.stoves, because someone messed with something that didn't really need messing with. What on earth is the problem with someone trying, by simple add-on modification to get the same burner to run silently for indoor use yet also have a roarer's outdoor performance. Primus did exactly that with these two so presumably it's pukkah, but try it yourself and you're fixing something that ain't broke.
Ian, you should have left your original reply unedited, it made better reading mate ( "there you go again" etc)
Rik, I agree with you on the "if it ain't broke, don't fix" approach, but I'm not trying to 'fix' anything here. Just having some fun, Enjoying the Flame and I might even learn something too. The stove will remain as a silent burner, but 'messing about' has given me some thoughts on burner types and design. I'm not about to surprise the stove world with a new stove design, but I've enjoyed thinking about the problem ... and as Mrs. Donnelly back in Dublin used say, 'Knowledge doesn't weight anything, son, so don't be afraid to learn' Enjoy the Flame (whatever the burner) Spudz
