I was given this about 25 years ago and I think I fired it up once about 20 years ago. I just re-found it in my stuff and trying to get it running. It's labelled as a tri-fuel model. Attached pics show what I've got. I found no jet in the burner, just what is in the pic. Am I missing parts? Where could I download a manual and parts list for this model? Thanks
As you wrote; you do need a jet. Check if the needle is in top of burner (though the stove could be running without the rinse-needle). One kettle-holder seem to be missing?
Would the jet be beneath the nut marked here with a red 'O'? I didn't attempt to loosen it. Obviously I don't know anything about these stoves.
https://classiccampstoves.com/forums/optimus.39/ Search forum for 111/111T and you will find lots of good info
Thanks for the quick response. I do have the other holder I had just removed it to disassemble for the photo. Looking around in the fettling area I saw some posts that indicate I may need to disassemble further to get to the jet? If so, it may be in there and I didn't realize it.
@Billofthenorth Looks to me like the jet is there... What looks like a nut is most likely the jet - hard to tell from your picture. The "closed end" of the small wrench stored in the lid is designed to remove the jet. If it fits the nut, you have found the jet...
Looks like I found it. I tried a quick function check with a small amount of alcohol and it appeared to work properly. Thanks for all the help.
The stove needs a good clean, especially the burner caps. If the stove has not been in use for 20 years you need to change the seals and lube the pump leather (or o-ring) before it is safe. First, you need to poke around here so you learn how the stove is put together and how it is supposed to work. You need to subscribe in order to find manuals, schematics and parts lists, but there is a lot of free stuff if you look around. All the best, e
Good to hear it worked @Billofthenorth ! Check the pump (be careful with the threads (2271 on the figure above) on the pump as they are quite easy to damage). The pump has either a leather washer (2261) or an o-ring. Some oil for the pump is normally needed to let the pump work properly. Remember not to pump with the regulator fixed to the spindle (the graphite packing inside the burner might be damaged). Tightening the nut by the spindle? If you get a small flame where the regulator is attached to the spindle (2192 on the figure above); tighten the nut (2194 on the figure above) a bit (easier to do that while burner is a bit warm). A bit washing is never wrong. Use a `kitchen-detergent` and warm water. Search the forum for how to wash with this water added a little bit citric acid crystals (but note that the brass parts get red if too long in this water!). Some easy polishing the brass parts could be done. Add this to the case; smart thing to protect the case/box. https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/111s-beer.11782/#post-310328 Add some pictures to this thread! Seems that most members here likes to see good pictures with the stove burning (I am surprised; they never seem to get fed up by seeing such pictures even if they have seen lots of them - guess that is passion). Seriously consider to subscribe to CCS; you will have plenty of knowledge, help with anything and good words back! Guess most members love this Optimus 111T stove you have got.
A very fine example of a stove. To add to this discussion, there are 3 jets for this stove. One for gas, one for kerosene, and one for alcohol. With alcohol you use the restrictor tube seen in your photo. The alcohol jet will be marked S. For initial use and testing I would suggest kerosene, as it is the safest fuel of the 3 and this stove functions best, in my opinion, on kerosene. Ken in NC
Thanks for the responses. I took it all apart and cleaned it with dish soap and water, having found a tutorial on youtube and it looks like the parts may be all there for alcohol. I didn't notice if the jet had an S on it so that'll be an excuse to take it apart again tomorrow. I have no other jets for kerosene or white gas. I guess I will have to find a source for those and a new O - ring or leather washer and any other seals, gaskets etc. I also noticed there was no filter in the tube from fuel tank to burner. Here she is slightly cleaner.
Parts for the 111T is readily available from quite a few sources. It's a great stove. Mine still gets regular use indoors.
How is Your 111 doing @Billofthenorth? Guess not only me want to see. And do consider beeing member and subscribe to CCS, you will learn much to keep Your stove in top condition.
Well it's not working as well as I had thought. I tried all 3 fuels in it after a cleaning and none worked up any pressure at the burner, just a weak blue flame that kept going out. I think the fuel tank and pump is working properly as I got some resistance as I pumped. Obviously I don't know which fuel it's configured to use now or if the jet / restrictor is a mismatch. I still have to gather more intel on it so I haven't fiddled with it since. I've also been busy playing with a new mini-trangia type burner and putting together a youtube video on the Bagnold sun compass. I just love the old hands-on technology. Getting that jet out is a real pain with the tiny wrench provided. I'll see if one of my sockets might work or I'll try and make a tool and I'll see if some compressed air might clean out some little restriction I can't see or reach. The inside of the fuel tank had little blue/green chunks of deposits so some of that might be stopping it up. Any additional suggestions are welcome. I'll look into a subscription once I get my taxes done and see how much more they (the gov't) want to squeeze from me.
I am really no expert (compared to others at CCS), but guess I know the 111 quite good. You cleaned both flame caps at top of burner right? I only use kerosene and have never used 111 with restrictor. When using kero; restrictor should not be used. Tried kerosene without restrictor?
You said you cleaned it. Did you take the burner off? Did you look in the burner? You may have some brass mesh. You can clean and replace that. Take the jet out and try burning the burner with a torch to burn the deposits and blow air through the burner while hot. Do not get it so hot that it melts the silbraze. As for testing, I suggest sticking with kerosene only for safety. And as said, the restrictor is only for alcohol with the spirit jet.
Well that's part of the problem there, I tried all the fuels with the restrictor in. So I guess I'll try kero without, maybe it'll run fine. Yes, took the burner off and scrubbed the caps (parts 2183, 2189). I didn't see any brass mesh inside but I'm sure I didn't do a great job cleaning it inside either. I'll try your suggestions. I did manage to remove the jet (part 2509) and "cleaned" it though I will blow it out with compressed air next time. One question. When putting the needle (part 2455) back in, is the spindle turned fully to the right and then back to the left 3 or 4 teeth? That's how I did it, the needle would not go in unless the spindle was turned fully right. I saw a youtube video about it but the person didn't explain exactly what he was doing and that part of the stove and regulator was out of frame.
SUCCESS! I took the restrictor off and she ran like a champ on kerosene. I now have the sweet sooty aroma of burnt oil all over me. It's great. Thanks for your help.
