I recently found a couple partial SIGG Tourist kits (and a SIGG fuel bottle) in a thrift store. Having had several Tourist kits in the past years, and having looked at a bunch on eBay, I feel like I know what they look like for the most part. However, one of the partial kits I just got is slightly different than what I am used to seeing. The large (outer) pot has two pot holder/strap brackets on the outside. The SIGG stamping is noticeably different than sets I have had before. The number 2 is in the left circle of the pot stamping. Also, the pot/top is stamped, which I do not recall seeing before. The "SIGG TOURIST" stamping on the top is similar, but perhaps a little less defined. Any thoughts/speculations/hard evidence about these differences? Is this an early version? Is this a pot set that was sold separately of the complete Tourist kit? My curiosity is piqued about this. Here is the haul from the thrift store (baby was not purchased at the store). Large Pot with brackets on the side: SIGG stamping on the bottom of pot. Notice unusual SIGG font and the number 2. The SIGG font I am used to seeing: Top stamped SIGG in the center: Close up of stamping on the top: Side stamping comparison. The top with the stamping is on the bottom: Top and bottom together:
Hi Jon, if I can recall correctly, there was a thread about two different SIGG sets and that the one with an off letter stamp may have been a copy of the original but am not really sure but seeing the stamping and the raised letters does make you wonder if the uneven stamping would be an original. However if the kit or bits and pieces work with some of the original, I would not bother as much as they are indeed usable in every way possible. Congratulations on your find and hope its put to very good use. Ron
https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/125142 It may be the pots capacity in litres !!?? So why is the other pot blank ?????
Hi Ron Thanks for the thoughts. I did try searching, but it seems like "Sigg" or "tourist" are posted in just about every thread, so I got too many results to look through. The pots and tops interchange amongst themselves. There are some slight dimensional differences in a couple areas: -the stamping on the bottom of the large pot is "deeper" on the unusual font pot. The stampings of the tops "staircase" together nearly identically, so there is no difference in stamping depth on the tops. -the o.d. of the stamped lid/top is a couple mm smaller than the non stamped top. -the thickness of the metal of all the pots and lids is approximately .78mm. More pics later. Andrew, I looked at that thread with the capacity stamping on it. I have not seen another number stamped on any of the other SIGG kits I've had. It's interesting that the font on that tea pot is the same as the pot/lid in question.
as mentioned before, the stamping on the bottom of the large pot is "deeper" on the unusual font (pot on the right in the pic). The stampings of the tops "staircase" together nearly identically, so there is no difference in stamping depth on the tops. the o.d. of the stamped lid/top is a couple mm smaller than the non stamped top. The lip of the non stamped top is the uppermost ring in the pic. The unusual font is also present on the pot holder. Also, notice the tab that acts as the pot gripper if using the brackets on the side of the pot. the table was my wife's aunt's table that she got as a wedding gift in 1949. we have the leaf for it as well as the 4 original chairs. it's our every day dining table.
The everlasting table tops sold after wwII by chain stores like McMahons were called 'pressed rock'. I won't burglarize until I learn the location of that center leaf.
Hey, Hazet, Your old Sigg setup looks great. I'm guessing that your Sigg is one of the older versions of the one we all know and love, and if I could dig out my old catalogs, or my REI 50th anniversary book, I might be able to verify that opinion. In any case, it's a wonderful old cookset, and hearty congrats for having scored it!! Thanks, also, for sharing it with us here. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Hello All, First post here. Thank you all for the information that you have provided. I've been able to repair and tune-up a few stoves with the resources and knowledge offered by the membership. I thought I would add a few photos of a similar Sigg Tourist set that I recently got off of eBay. This set also has the strap brackets on the large pot and came with a brown vinyl strap. Large pot is marked "2" on the bottom and the small pot "1 1/2" I think that might relate to 2 and 1 1/2 US quarts - which would be equivalent to the 3.5 and 2.5 Imperial Pints that Sigg Tourist pots are advertised at. The different set on the left, "normal" aluminum set middle and stainless steel set on the right. The auction came with a rather nice Sievert 123. (Compulsory stove shot) Also 6 of these Sigg metal top fuel bottles. Not sure if the stove and bottles help to date the pot set, as I have no way of knowing when they were actually acquired by the original owner. Regards, Ken
WOW!! Those are sweet! they all look unused and that 123 is a gem amongst gems. You are one lucky dude, congratulations. The SIGG Tourist/Svea 123 is my favorite hiking kitchen, bar none. My Tourist is the stainless model, given to me by my best friend about 40 years ago and very well used, I lugged it all over the North Cascades. I also have an alumin(i)um one fitted to the Coleman 400 series of stoves, it's also a good unit, although a bit heavier than the 123 fired unit. Gerry N.
Something about those bottles Im not sure on. I have a recollection of Sigg branded water bottles with metal lids. The Sigg brands water bottles Ive seen for sale have been much lighter in weight than the fuel ones so it should be easy to check. The main thing I see is the lack of corrosion on the surface. They might be anodised but if not they should be dull.I have a blue anodised one that was given to me along with some other free stoves. As for that unfired 123 non R they are rare in that form
Hmmm....not sure about the bottles. The more modern fuel bottles I think are heavier to withstand being pressurized with modern backpacking stove liquid fuel pumps. My scale has them at 5 oz / 145 grams. My Sigg water bottle comes out at the same weight. However, if they are from around the mid 60's, then they were probably never designed to be under pressure. https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/vintage-sigg-fuel-bottles.19912/
Hi, I'm no expert on the bottles, but my father bought one in about 1965-66 which was red anodized on the outside. If memory serves, it was unanodized inside, and sold as a "fuel only" bottle. I recall some kind of warning from Sigg in the REI "catalog" (anyone remember those little newsprint magazines?) about not using their bottles for acidic liquids unless they were anodized inside. That bottle got damaged beyond repair, and was tossed, but I still have the top. It does not have the same threads as my later unanodized and plastic topped Sigg bottles. I don't remember pressurized bottles, MSR style, being on the scene when I bought most of the bottles I still use. Late '70s, perhaps? On the Sigg Tourist kits, my father also bought one of those at the same time he got the red bottle--it was sold by REI with a Primus 71 stove included and the brown strap seems familiar. I don't know if my brother has it today to check against my later ones. Two of mine are alumin(i)um, one stainless. Both alumin(i)um kits have the clear plastic strap. One, purchased new shortly pre-1985, has the windscreen set up for a 123 and has been used extensively. The other, which Mailman Dan just delivered this morning, was recently pulled out of the bay. It appears to be unused in the field but shows some storage wear, and has the 400/442 style windscreen. Since the stainless set, also set up for the 400/442, was purchased new, probably between 1993-95, and has a woven nylon strap, I'm guessing the "new" alumin(i)um kit is just a little older. None of them have the extra strap holders on the pot sides, though all the pot holders have that extra little tab, nor are they marked with any numbers in the little circles at either end of the word Sigg on the bottoms of the pots. Also, there's a slight difference, 2-3mm perhaps, in height between the two large alumin(i)um pots, while the large stainless pot is perhaps 10mm or so shorter than the shorter of the other two. Rick C
