Hi, The Turley and Williams Senior failed to sell on Ebay so now I've got an excuse to play with it. I put IPA in, Isopropyl Alcohol not India Pale Ale, to see if it would pump and also hopefully to clean the innards a bit. When I pumped the tank with the bicycle pump and opened the valve it worked, to a degree, squirting out IPA, but after a short while it sputtered and the jet of IPA looked a bit weak. It's possibly the non return valve, built into the filler cap, see pictures. It is just a captive ball bearing. Either the positive pressure in the tank forces the ball bearing up and seals the hole, or there's a spring missing. Does anyone know the answer? I'll have to order some seals before I can do much more to it, but it's looking fairly hopeful at the moment, at least it switches on and off. Any help appreciated. cheers, Joe
Hi Joe, Most likely there is nothing wrong with your fuel cap. You may need to replace the washer on the fuel cap. I may be wrong but the most likely problem is the fuel dried up in the fount and has partially plugged the pickup tube and generator. You will need something quite a bit stronger than alcohol to clean the inside of the fount. When fuel dries inside the fount it turns into a varnish, so you need to use a varnish remover such as Acetone. To clean the stove properly you are going to have to dismantle your stove. If you are unsure how to dismantle your stove contact John (presscall) because he is the man with the plan for fettling stoves or look on CCS because someone must have had to dismantle the same stove you have. I hope this helps. Cheers, Norman
@teckguy_58 Thanks for the compliment, Norman, but you've done a pretty impressive diagnostic job yourself I reckon! In fact the filler cap washer is absent from your cap @JoeyO if you take a look at this example from the single burner stove. True, there's an in-built pump on this example and yours has that non-return valve in the cap to marry up with a separate pump but the washer will be the same. There should be no spring in there. As you suggested, the pressurised air in the tank pushes the steel ball against the valve seat to make the seal. It would have stood no chance of doing that with the O-ring I see it had (which looks to be displaced). The low and rapidly reducing pressure in the tank when you tried it would account for the puny, sputtering output of fuel. That said, when properly pressurised checking how the fuel exits the jet you'd expect an atomised spray and not a thin stream of fuel. Apologies for not bidding but the hefty starting bid required (which may be achievable if two competing bidders want it enough on another day) stopped me in my tracks! John
Hi Norman, John, Thanks to both of you for your help. You were both right, it was a combination of a knackered seal, a very clogged filter on the end of the fuel pipe and my rubbish pumping technique. It is working now, the left hand burner is less powerful than the right and it took a long time for the stove to go out after I closed the valve, but on the positive side it lit straight away with very little flaring, it's very quiet and its very controllable. Apologies for the high starting price, but I didn't want it to go for too low a price when I had half a mind to keep it myself. I'll have to figure out what I'll do it now, I've already got an Optimus 22 and I feel more comfortable with paraffin than petrol. Thanks again for your help. Cheers, Joe
@presscall Hi John, You are welcome. In truth you are truly the man with the plan when it comes to fettling stoves. If you can't fix it well it just can't be fixed. I too would have bid on the stove but with the starting price being quite high and out of my price range plus the hefty shipping fee made me stay away. I would like to find one of these, but that is highly unlikely. With any stove of this era it is almost always going to have some issues to deal with. Cheers, Norman
Hi Joe, That's a find job of getting the old girl up and going. On any two burner stove the primary burner is always going to perform much better. You might get a little better performance out of her if you dismantle the stove and clean all of the parts, but on the other hand it may do nothing at all for the performance. It will be totally up to you what you want to do. Sorry I could bid on the stove it was just to high for me with shipping included. Again great job getting her going and thanks for sharing your flame shots. Cheers, Norman
Excellent job @JoeyO A great stove whether as a keeper or to sell. You're dead right to avoid the risk of giving it away. Stove prices on ebay can be so volatile when the make/model is factored in. Some 'fashionable' ones go for silly prices (in my view at least) and some seem to slip through below the radar and sell for a lot less than I'd be willing to pay - thankfully, when I've happened upon a bargain like that. The T&W Snr. is just the sort that's in that zone of uncertainty as to what it'll make. John
Happy Stove. Well, I've just make a cuppa for the family with T&W Snr, see picture, and all seems well. I think I'll keep it at least for a while, and hopefully use it for a weekends camping in September. I'm off to Switzerland with the Scouts on Saturday, so I'll be "putting it on the back burner" (joke?) for a while. Thanks for everyone's helpful comments. Cheers, Joe
