Mixed 2-cycle gas in 111B?

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  1. Billyboy

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    I've got 20 L of mixed gasoline for my outboard motor at 50:1.
    It's the end of the season and it'll go stale by next spring.

    The 111B is supposed to burn gasoline well.

    So can I burn (some of) my mixed gas in the 111B? Will it gum up?
    Or should I just throw some "Stabil" in it and try to burn it next spring in the outboard?
     
  2. kerry460

    kerry460 Australia R.I.P.

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    it will burn , but the oil will cause a lot more carbon build up than you want .
    i have tried it and diesel etc , out of curiousity and for emergency situations .

    not for every day

    if you have an old G Wagen with a 617 diesel motor , pour it in . 10 litres at a full tank .
    they do not care . :) :)

    kerry
     
  3. kaw550red

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    I would not use it in the stove. The oil is likely to clog your burner inside as it will not vapourise as readily as the petrol and will carbonise the inside of the tubes.

    I used leaded petrol before unleaded petrol was available here and even worse I used the dearest thinking it was the purest. The dearest was dear because it had the most additives in so I paid extra to clog my burners up quicker.

    It is a pain clearing the carbon out of the burners and much better to avoid if possible

    Regards Bryan
     
  4. orsoorso

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    Just buy "OMC 2+4 fuel conditioner" (or other brand equivalent) , follow the instruction and your 20 liters of mix will be OK for your outboard next season.
     
  5. anlrolfe

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    I filled a Primus 32oz fuel bottle w/ 40:1 2-cycle mix for a small outdoors project requiring a little chain saw action then forgot all about it. Well, it ended up in my 111B by mistake. The result was an acrid fume and reduced performance. High quality 2-cycle mixes have synthetic oils with a much higher flashpoint designed to have residual lube at near combustion temps. Drain and fill cured the dilemma with no apparent ill effects. I will say that the 1-good point was the control knob may have turned a bit easier. I drained the mix into my truck which never hurts for a little extra top end lube.

    Andy
     
  6. itchy

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    Give it to a neighbor or relative for their snowmobile (or whatever they are now called) or snow blower. (Then they will be obligated.)
     
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    @Billyboy
    You didn't actually use it, you just asked, right?
    Why would you think it's a good idea?
     
  8. Billyboy

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    Good call, itchy.
    Ok. I won't be running it through the 111B.
     
  9. Billyboy

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    No Ken, I just asked. Didn't use it.
     
  10. orsoorso

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    Here comes my (quite dated) experience.
    when as a boy I was riding off road on abandoned military (2WW) tracks on the Tuscany and Emilia Romagna Apennines, I used the bike mix (Austrian PUCH 125 cc, 5% oil) in my M1943MOD, it worked for one tank, then generator clogged. Cleaning the gen was not too difficult ( unwinding the brass gauze, washing it in the same gasoline mix, reinstall). Not an amazing job.
    I finished bringing a metal canteen with white gas.
    By the way, I wouldn't advise to use outboard mix in a snowmobile: TCW3 oil (outboard mix oil) is specific for motors running quite cold, it may damage a not "marine" two stroke engine.
     
  11. SveaSizzler

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    Try Sta-Bil fuel preservative, available at most auto parts stores. I use 2 Oz [50 ml] per 5 Gallon [20 L] jerry can to keep gasoline fresh for a year. I have a '68 Chevy C/10 Step-side pickup and a '71 GMC Jimmy 4x4. They are gas hogs from the day when premium was under 25 cents/gallon at the gas station off the 101 freeway in Hollywood. So I buy up to 35 gallons a month and keep it in a shed in jerry cans with 2 shots of Sta-Bil in each. Works best if you add a like amount, 5 gallons, of fresh gas to the tank for every jerry can of preserved gas. Been doing this for years. Only drawback is the newer gasoline/ethanol formula tends to leach out the paint on the European [NATO] cans and also cause rust on the bottom, so I run it thru a series of gas filters to strain out the gak. Some of my jerry cans are about 30 years old, however.
    Your can of outboard mix should be fine until next season with the prescribed amount of Sta-Bil. They also make a Marine variant.
    Don't ruin a good stove.
     
  12. Billyboy

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    Thanks guys.