Good morning all! A few months ago while in Polynesia with my boat, I was looking for a spare burner for my force 10 kerosene stove. At the end, I ordered it to a UK/USA ebay seller that shipped it to Chile. Unfortunately, the item arrived in Chile the day after my friends left to come visit me. Two months later, another friend from Chile came and brought it. But it was not the item I needed. The burner I use needs to have a tread inside to be screwed on the male part of the stove and this one doesn't have it. I am now in Tonga, on my way to NZ and i was wondering if there are some places in NZ or Australia where i can order the parts i need. Thank you all, Roberto
@Roberto Can you post a picture or give me a part number? I'll look in Australia for you. Cheers Tony
@Roberto As Tony offered, if you can supply A photo, part number... I will have a look in New Zealand. I am in Tauranga, a popular harbour for yatchies. Several good marine suppliers here and these guys as well. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1185476301 http://www.caravancamping.co.nz/Our...ARTS/Stove-Parts-General/Kerosene-Burner-207/ Happy to help pickup etc Cheers B
Hi @Caveman Perhaps you didn't notice, but Roberto is looking for a regulated silent burner with Female connector! He did send me a PT and here is my reply: "Hi Roberto, I am glad that you have now reached Tonga and that you still have an operating stove. It is a pity that your new burner does not fit. I am surprised as all the regulated burners I have ever seen have male threads, and fit into an internally threaded upstand or nut: http://www.base-camp.co.uk/Marine15.htm http://www.base-camp.co.uk/exploded views/Optimus/207 burner.htm You must have a very rare or unusual stove. Best Regards Kerophile"
The Phoebus 625 regulated burner has a female connector. If these are used in a Force 10 stove I don't know.
Hi, Mystery solved. Force 10 modified standard Regulated silent burners with an in-house extension: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/heater-with-207-issue.29392/#post-300159 I have no idea where one would get one of these extensions. Perhaps one could be unbrazed from a failed burner and transferred across to the new burner. Best Regards, Kerophile.
Good morning @kerophile , I threw a bone out there to our yatchie as he may be tired of eating cold baked beans. My first vain hope was that his burner was a standard stock item, maybe carried but not listed online at a supplier. Secondly we could find or make an adapter to fit the common male threaded burner to his stove. I have free access to lathe and brazing. Also a tame gasfitter with a large box of oddball fittings to rummage through. He also has mad brazing skills from decades in the trade and is rather fond of my cooking. I see through your research the burner is a custom in-house unit that is unlikely to be held in stock. The brazing doesn't look too difficult but I've never heard of a balancing jet either. Hot porridge and English brekkie tea here, I hope @Roberto can enjoy Ota ika and conserve his failing cooker. Sail SSW and look for the "Long white cloud" Cheers B
Hi @Caveman .You sound just the guy that Roberto needs. He has a new burner as I understand it, but doesn't fully understand how it needs to be adapted to fit his Force 10 stove. Currently he has use of the stove but he is keen to have a spare burner as it seems to "eat" Burners due to heavy use and poor quality kerosene available at the remote harbours he visits. It is likely he has a dead burner or two, which can be used as a donor to modify the new burner he bought and had delivered to him in Tonga. However, he needs a knowledgeable person like yourself to carry out the work. Ref. a "balancing jet"; this is a plug, with a small diameter aperture (not much bigger than the jet aperture). It is typically used on stoves with long fuel lines from the pressurised tank, and the aperture plug is fitted in the supply line usually in the riser tube. A tightly rolled brass gauze plug is an alternative. The balancing jet or gauze plug prevents fuel surging or resonance in the supply to the burner by acting as a choke in the supply line. These balancing jets are relatively common on marine ranges and heaters, as well as large industrial/commercial stoves such as Primus No.3 types. Best Regards, Kerophile.
hi all, thank you Kerophile for explain perfectly the situation, thank you Caveman for the nice offer. Hot porridge, English brekkie tea, cold baked beans ... I will sail straight to Tauranga. And if we fix the stove ... i will start cooking pasta and pizza !! Here is a bad quality picture, i hope it works. as usual internet is incredibly slow ... you can see at the bottom the male threaded nipple (balancing jet) were the burner screw on that is part of the stove Forum experts and the seller himself told me they never saw something like this. But apparently the mystery is solved now. thanks for your help
That looks like the male threaded standard burner has simply been threaded internally (female). A photo from the side would confirm this. I thought it had a brazed on adapter like pictured below, thanks to @kerophile It looks like it has no riser or adapter just an internal tapping. EASY! Just need to work out the thread. No more cold beans and raw fish. Cheers B
is really possible that is just threaded... right now I have no way to thread it and fortunately the old burner are still working ... thank again for your help...
We will have a good look when you get here. If I do not have the correct tap I know where to look. It is a small tool, easy to take in your toolkit for future repairs. When are you likely to sail to New Zealand? B
You'll find that a 1/8x27NPT pipe tape is perfect for tapping internal threads in the bottom of a 207b burner. As a second thought, the balancing jet is the single highest cause of failure of these burners. The hole is just to small and not easy to keep clean. A 5 micron fuel filter in the feed line does wonders. Just be carful that the filter can take the pressure. The same precautions used for diesel fuel apply to kerosene. No moisture or dirt of any kind. The biggest source of dirt in the fuel is pumped condensation in the tank when you pressurize the tank.
I am in NZ!! arrived yesterday in Opua. Tried to land in Norfolk Island on my way south but I encountered a storm ... I will head south soon! dspearsy2k, thank you for the info!! I was thinking about add a filter on the line. I actually have a 2 micron Racor 645 I don't use ... do you think it will work ?? I don't know how long is supposed to last a burner. I use them every day for averaging 1hour or more....
Hi Roberto and welcome, Enjoy your rest in the Bay of Islands. On your way south please say hi to Matapouri bay, our family favourite holiday spot. Tutukaka One of our best game fishing harbours and maybe stop to gather cockles and pipis at Ngunguru. Godspeed B
I would like to update this post to thanks Caveman for his help. I spent 10 (rainy) days in Tauranga and Bernie help me a lot with my burner. He has been able to thread the inside of the new burner and also soldered and repaired my old broken burners and in the mean time also invited me for dinner thank you Caveman !!! Roberto
