Primus 71 Opinion wanted

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  1. tim

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    hi all:

    mailman just brought me a Primus 71 (minus the tin) that i grabbed on ebay for 20 bucks,
    it's in good shape, just needs a cleaning...surprised at how similar it is to my new Svea 123 minus the windscreen.

    anyway, I posted a want ad for a suitable tin for in the wanted section of the forum.
    if anybody's got something that would work let me know, i will pay fairly for it.

    here's my question: should I try to find a tin for this or just hook this stove up with a Trangia 25 or 27 cookset which I would like to buy eventually anyway??


    thanks
    tim
     
  2. rik_uk3

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    Nice one on the stove Tim, try making a tin from an old coffee can to keep you going.

    Get the Trangia though, remember the 25 is the big set and the 27 the small set, they are 100% foolproof stoves, if I had to pick one stove to keep from all I had, it would be a Trangai 8)
     
  3. tim

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    rik will that 71 fit inside and be useful and safe with the Trangia?
     
  4. rik_uk3

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    I doubt it would Tim, save your money and buy and Optimus Nova to go with the Trangia, they are designed for it :D
     
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    Rik

    I think you are losing the plot here - he wants a tin for his 71!!!
    He doesn't need your diatribe on Trangias. ;)
     
  6. rik_uk3

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    No Trevor, no plot lost, he asked if the 71 would usable in a Trangia and I said I doubt it, he also said he wants a Trangia, so my reference to the Nova comes from that
     
  7. tim

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    i was just thinking about the possibility of using the 71 with the Trangia..It looks like a nice cookset, tried and proven, I really want the set with the kettle!!

    just wondering if the 71 was a viable stove to use with the Trangia..i've heard of people using 123's with the trangia or sigg tourister...the 71 looks to be just about the same size as the 123...

    just batting around a few ideas...
     
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    Hi Rik

    Your are right, of course. I should try reading for a change!
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  9. tim

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    and it looks like Evil has so generously rounded me up a tin already!!
    thank you evil, i do appreciate it!
    that's fantastic, i'll have an appropriate tin to use with my new 71...

    i'll have to get the vinegar + Brasso out again now....

    Evil thanks so much!!
    there are some very cool people on this forum....

    regards
    tim
     
  10. rik_uk3

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    two minutes will be enough ;)
     
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    .............. mmmmmmm ....i think the nova and trangia make a reasonable , if somewhat bulky & heavy combo, ... but reckoning its more by accident than by intentional design .
    if by design, the designer of the nova erred greatly on the side of caution on the trangia systems heat requirements. ie massive overkill. :D .its like putting a v12 engine in a bubble car :D
    trangia .... on its own .... proven classic
    nova .....on its own ..... possible future classic ?
    trangia & nova combo .........mongrel :lol:

    nick :twisted:
     
  12. rik_uk3

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    Trangia designed an adaptor for the Nova, so mongrel no, perfect partnership yes 8)
    Base Camp part 788205

    A bit over the top in the smaller model 27, but great in the 25
     
  13. Sketch R.I.P.

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    Wow Tim. You got your 71 tin fast. Amazing thing about this forum. Ask for help, and you get it in spades.

    My suggestion was GOING to be, head down to your local second hand store / Salvation Army store or what have you in your area and look thru their cookie tins. They can sometimes have an amazing variety to chose from and something might just fit your 71 perfectly, and usually comes with a lid too!
     
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    Re: 123 vs. 71. While the burners and lighting techniques are identical the stoves aren't. The 71 is smaller in diameter and taller than the 123. The Sigg Tourist / 123 is a match made in heaven as is the Primus 71/ Optimus 80 and the Edelweiss Cooker. If you can find one.

    In the Long Ago there were aftermarket pot stand adaptors for the 71/80 stoves that replaced the tins which are succeptable to rust and trauma. I made one for my 71's on a whim. I soldered a strip of 1" sheet brass into a circle to fit the stove's fount, adding three short pieces of 3/16" tubing to take stove legs adapted from super cheap steel wire tent pegs that come with el-cheapo tents and dining flies. There's a picture somewhere in this site of an identical one made by one of our stovie brothers in, I think, Holland.

    Gerry
     
  15. tim

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    yeah sketch that was fast! you guys are great. i really do appreciate all the help.
    BTW: i'm not just in here blowing smoke either. i do lunch almost every day out of the back of my truck or up at a local park with my new toys/stoves.

    really enjoying all of this, and this forum's great.
    i missed the forum when it was down, and would like to thank spiritburner for providing this forum and all the hard work he did getting it back up for us all..

    tim
     
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  17. rik_uk3

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    here here
     
  18. tim

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    hi nordic; yeah i'm sure i could have ad-libbed one...i was thinking just a plain ole' can taller overall and a bit wider than the tank with a slot cut lenghtwise to accomodate the key and some air holes punched in would work...but it would be nice to have a tin to display the stove when i'm not out using it!!

    i just tried to fire it up outside a few minutes ago, the jet was clogged, i pricked it out and got it going but it's not burning strong at all...i suspect the wick is probably dry, but with fuel in the tank now, tomorrow she'll probably burn good and strong after that wick soaks a bit..

    i'll be busy polishing tonight that's for sure.
     
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    Take the jet out and clean the riser tube where the jet goes in. I had an 80 that was as weak as an amemic kitten until I did that. There was swarf and carbon bits in there that were apparently clogging the orifice. While you have the jet out dribble some fresh fuel down the riser with the valve open, that'll wet the wick for sure.

    Gerry
     
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    There is a lot to like about the 71 family, cute quirky tins, blasting heat and compact packable shape. Useful amount of spare room inside for lighters, sparkers, prickers, candle stubs, cloths etc too. I've toyed with the idea in the past of custom building a tote bag for inside the tin, sausage shaped to fit around the valve stem and a draw cord to stop stuff falling out. I carved a notch in the side of the key to fit the jet as well.

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