Primus No.1J: or - 'B' 1912 (DRP)

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  1. igh371

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    At first sight a very run-of-the-mill Primus No.1. But closer inspection reveals that it is little out of the ordinary.
    First you notice that, although it is date coded 'B' for 1912, it has a 'normal' spirit ring, not the 'pine cone' type you would expect on a No.1 of that date. That then draws attention to the burner, it is too small, an '0' size burner. But it is right: this is a 'J: or' model fitted with the correct, economy, burner.

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    Then there is the filler cap with the "D.R.P. 73457", a Deutsches Reich patent registration mark showing that this one was produced for the German market:

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    This example was in fact originally sold in the old East Prussia region before WW1, an area which is now, since the end of WW2, deep inside present day Poland. So a little piece of history as well as being an interesting variant of the ubiquitous No.1 stove.
     
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    A good start of the day seeing this one – what a beauty. :clap::clap::clap:
    Some might think it looks like c#&/%@@ but I cannot help myself - what a beauty!

    I have a special interest in the Junior and the No 0 & No 4 stoves, but they are nowhere to be found. I have never seen a Junior stove “in person”, not even in Sweden - the Stove Land of Milk and Honey.

    Any tip on where to get one and I am all ears.8)8)8)

    All the best, e
     
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    Interesting is to the date code " B. " (Bee dot) ,same with my No.1 S: or ( B. ) .

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    Morning, Ian,

    What a wonderfully whimsical stove, with lots of interesting features! For you to have actually been keen on figuring them all out, deserves a big "Well done!" I don't think I would have "seen" the true identity of this stove, as you did. Thanks for sharing this rare and interesting version of that old #1! Again, well done!! Take care, Merry Christmas to you and yours, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Mark
     
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    What a wonderful piece of stove history. Your detective work is amazing. Thanks for such a clear presentation of both the stove and your knowledge about it. It's amazing that a 1912 German stove made inside old East Prussia deep inside modern day Poland has survived 114 years and found it's way here. Good luck finding another @tofta [-o<[-o<[-o<:lol:

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    Finally, after a burner decoke and then another series of blockages in the new jet, here we are in full flight under a large flat bottomed copper kettle, and coffee is only seconds away:thumbup:
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    The Patent is on Depatisnet under DE73457.

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    Great Stove.

    Cheers Peter
     
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    Thanks to Peter for the facsimile of the Patentschrift Nr. 73457 vom 4. November 1892.

    I own a Primus No. 1 "PATENT" (with no date code, but with the same D.R.P. (= Deutsches Reichs Patent) number on the lid). I tried to find the document via "Einsteigerrecherche" in the DPMA online archive some months ago, to find the date of the German patent.
    I was not successful using the number "73457" and gave up after a while.

    "DE73457" gives the result without any delay. ](*,)
    Berufsbeamtenlogik der EU, da muss man erst mal draufkommen! :doh:

    Best Regards
    Radler