As I am spending my work day planning this summers vacation trips to silent woods where the midnight sun rules supreme and I am looking into getting some decent cook gear. Also, i fell into this dark hole that is vintage stoves a couple of days ago and has already bought a couple of fixer uppers. A 111 and a Radius 21 (couldn't resist the logo). I have been looking into weights of the vintage stoves. I have been looking around but haven't found any info or sites that. Not that I am a light backpacker since my backpack empty weights in at 3kilos (Swedish Army surplus LK-70) but if i added a weighty cooking system i might have to change backpack. A kilo extra starts to show during the last days of a 7 day hike. I would also have to change my old-timey Swedish meth "snuskburk". (enmanskök m/40) to something lighter and preferably non-stick coated. I like the 8r because of the self containment but i can just as easily use the radius 21. I believe my companions out in the woods would make big eyes when i broke out a 21 from 1937, shiny and old looking and out-cooked them with the roaring rocket sounds of yesteryear. So after a medium length novel, is there a site/page/pamphlet that lists weights on vintage stoves anywhere? Otherwise i would love to find out the weight of the 8r. Also, if anyone knew the weight of the russian 8r clone ...Primus Tourist PT-1 think? Those are more into my price range.
I checked some of the catalogues in here, and they state that the 8R weighs 0,6 kg, which I assume is without fuel. I could weigh one when I get home from work.
0.6 is ok...thats carriable . That probably means that in the worst case scenario the russian PT-1 should not weigh more than 1kg.
Between 24 and 27 oz depending on the key. See this thread with several entries on weights... https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/400a-lighter-than-533-dual-fuel-exponent.34798/ It's a dozen or so posts below yours in this forum. Tim
@swedmiro I would choose a roaring kero burner above a gasoline burner.... It is way cooler for impressing the Trangia crowd. Take both cookers out for a day hike and test them out, I absolutely love gasoline burners, my wife loves the blue 8r.... You can't go wrong with ditching "snuskburken". I only use my "snuskburk" to boil the cylinder from my 1858 remington. Weight is just a benefit to your constitution, more weight, more exercise, more running the stove to eat, more food and fuel to carry.......it goes on and on.... /Lars
@bem1965 I will probably use the Radius 21 because of the shine-and-roar factor. I do however love the Snuskburk pots for cooking. Especially their usability over an open fire (and the fact that can be used as a bunker to hide in when the war comes.)
Yep. I just checked with one of the 8R's at home for the fun of it, and it landed on 719 grams / 25.36 oz (empty of fuel, of course, and with the cookie cutter key).
My notes tell me that my 8r was 718g before I filled the tank, with the 111-style key. The 123r-style key is more light weight. My Optimus 8 with aluminium case is under 500g.
British Military No. 12: 174 oz (4933 g) Burmos 21: 26 oz (737 g), in tin with bits, 41 oz (1162 g) Coleman 400 brown: 29 oz (822 g) Coleman 530: 35 oz (992 g), in container with tool, 44 oz (1247 g) Coleman 576: 32 oz (908 g) Coleman 550: 18 oz (510 g) Coleman 500: 65 oz (1842 g) Coleman 502: 38 oz (1077 g), in 501 cook kit, 50 oz (1417 g) Coleman 533: 32 oz (908 g), in plastic case, 42 oz (1191 g) Enders 9061 military with tools and bits: 68 oz (1928 g) Enders 9063 baby: 24 oz with all the bits Enders 9061D: 64 oz (1814 g) Hipolito No. 2: 33 oz (936 g) MSR XGK-EX: 12 oz (340g), with pump and stuff sack and 11 oz fuel bottle, 16 oz (454 g) MSR DragonFly: 13 oz (368 g), with pump and 11 oz fuel bottle, 18 oz (510 g) MSR GK: 9 oz (255 g), with pump and 11 oz fuel bottle, 14 oz (396 g) MSR XGK: 11 oz (312 g), with yellow pump, 16 oz (454 g) MSR Firefly: 12 oz (340 g), with yellow pump no windscreen, 17 oz (482 g) Optimus 8R with metal key: 24 oz (680 g) Optimus 8R with cookie cutter key: 27 oz (765 g) Optimus 111B, cookie cutter knob and tool: 56 oz (1587 g) Optimus 111T, cup-type knob and tool: 59 oz (1672 g) Optimus 111, cookie cutter knob and tool: 59 oz (1672) Optimus OO: 23 oz (652 g), in tin with bits, 36 oz (1020 g) Optimus 45 with pan trivet: 37 oz (1049 g) Optimus 80: 11 oz (312 g), in tin, 18 oz (510 g) Optimus 99: 24 oz, includes pot holder and strap Optimus Crux in pouch: 4 oz (113 g) Optimus Nova Plus: 11 oz (312 g), with all the bits in stuff sack and 11 oz bottle, 29 oz (822 g) Primus 71: 10 oz (283 g), in stove box: 21 oz (595 g) Primus 210: 24 oz (680 g), in tin with bits: 38 oz (1077 g) Primus Himalaya Multifuel: 14 oz (396 g), with pump and 11 oz fuel bottle, 22 oz (624 g) Primus 96 Pocket 1925 bun feet: 18 oz (510 g), in tin with bits, 31 oz (879 g) Primus 100 with pan trivet: 37 oz (1049 g) Primus Grasshopper: 13 oz (369 g) Radius 43 silent burner: 42 oz (1190 g) Radius 21: 24 oz (680 g), in tin with bits, 36 oz (1021 g) Svea 123 no pot, jet tool, or pot handle: 14 oz (397 g), with all the bits, 17 oz (481 g) M-1950 (aka 536): 24 oz (680 g), in container case, 33 oz (936 g) M-1942 Mountain: 22 oz (624 g), 31 oz (879 g) M-1941 (aka 520), 4 legger: 40 oz (1134 g), in container case, 48 oz (1361 g) sam I'm not Sam, but he did this work originally.
Enjoy some pics from my circa 1976 Optimus catalog, and a spec sheet from an Optimus 323. Weights and (optimistic) burn times included.
