Gloria? Help needed with 2-burner ID

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  1. Tony Press

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    This looks to me like a long term challenge; but the first part is to identify the maker and the missing bits. (This stove came into my possession via Bernie Holmes).

    Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.


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    This looks like a pre-heater arrangement with a bit missing from the end.
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    The burner proximal to the fuel line from the tank.
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    The burner furthest from the fuel line.
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    Same burner with the "cap" off.
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    Fuel line.
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    This looks like a Gloria control.
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    Bottom views:

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    This could be the original colour. IMG_5098.jpg



    The pump looks very similar to the pump from a Gloria lamp that I have:

    Pump from the stove:

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    A very close match to the pump in this lamp.
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    Remarkably, the pump works well, the tank holds pressure and the fuel line and pre-heater emit air under pressure.

    I'm determined to get this thing up and running but I won't do anything until I get feedback. (I won't be able to start any work on it until I get back from Canada in February).


    By the way, here's the sunset last night from my verandah (where I photographed the stove).
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    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    hi mr Tony
    Yes forget the stove, let see the sky
    regards
     
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    Almost looks like Mordor or California as seen from the Shire :lol:
     
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    That stove has had a hard life.
    At first glace it looks like a standard suitcase stove that AGM, Prentiss-Wabers or Coleman produced. However it has some features that I have not seen on other stoves.

    It is interesting that you have made some observations about the pump being similar to the one on a Gloria lantern.
    I know that Gloria Light Co. made a stove and lots of heaters/burners, but not a suitcase stove.
    If it is a Gloria, then that would be wonderful news. Maybe a Gloria made in Australia?

    I look forward to your research and comments from other members.
     
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    Very interesting looking project.
     
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    WOW this is very interesting..AGM also used the same pump arrangement.a wonderful old stove
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  7. Tony Press

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    With help from @Matty, I've located a few advertisements in Australian papers for this stove. All in 1938.

    Here's one (thanks to the National Library of Australia, "Trove"):

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    Cheers


    Tony
     
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    A Gloria suitcase stove! That is excellent news.
    Could you or Matty place a copy of the advert in the Library, please?
     
  9. Tony Press

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    @shagratork

    I’ve got a series of adverts of this stove.

    Im digitising them, so maybe a couple of days before they hit the Library.

    Matty might have some, too.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    I suspect this stove will be as rare as rare stoves get. Everything indicates that this stove only began production in 1938. Within 18 months or so of this stove being introduced, Gloria were bought out and their plant sold off.

    I can only assume these stove manufactured in Australia only.

    I dips me lid to you @Tony Press , you have found a wonderful piece of Australian GPA history.
     
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    Well, the truth is, the stove found me. It was offered to me by its owner, along with a range of Gloria lanterns/lamps in various states of repair.

    I would like to get this beast going, and maybe build a new 'suitcase' for it. I'll start with the advice that @Lamp_Doctor gave me - that is it might have a burner setup like some of the Coleman burners. So, I'll study some Coleman burners and ponder whether/how I can make the missing parts. All of this will have to wait until after I return from Canada in February.

    By the way, I can't find any advertisements for this stove after the end of 1938.


    Cheers

    Tony
     
  13. Matty

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    They are there in 1939 and even into 1940. By mid to late 1939 it is essentially the same couple of retailers advertising the stove. It will be stock they simply haven't sold from purchases made from Gloria in 1938 or early 1939.

    It is a shame that Gloria, Australia, was bought out just when they were as they were starting to develop some very nice products.
     
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    Hi gents
    Some believe that prohibiting euthanasia encourage the artificial prolongation of life.
    For example the phrase¨heroic measure¨may have the same meaning to a health care
    professional, than it does to one who works on an old stove.
    My kingdome for a...stove.
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    Tony, all,
    Much progress is made above re your OP and
    I thank you all for that.

    A cross reference here to Lamp Doctor's recent post makes sense, it looks like complete example of same stove and with his post he adds more rare detail for this thread and vise a versa.
    thanks again omc

    PS On one hand I expect all involved are already tuned-in.
    On the other hand you're all interested in these rare details, so pardon my tagging you guys here, the tag is just as an FYI.
    @Tony Press @Lamp_Doctor @shagratork @Matty
     
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  16. Tony Press

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    Yes. I am aware of @Lamp_Doctor’s find.

    Since then, I’ve spied another in a collection so we know there are at least 2.75 of them out there.

    The good thing is, I’ll now know how to make the parts that are missing off mine.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    A very interesting thing has emerged in regards to the burners. I have seen a topic from elsewhere on the internet.

    That topic is about a Nesco suitcase stove. Nesco used the same burners, at least to my untrained eye they look the same, as the burners used by Gloria.

    I have found a bit on Nesco. They seem to have started in 1924 and produced many burner appliances including 2, 3 and 4 burner camp stoves.