Alcohol 209 Burner Compatibility? And marine stove questions...

Discussion in 'Fettling Forum' started by Chris S, Jan 25, 2018.

  1. Chris S

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    This is my first post here, and I appreciate all the knowledge about these old devices that I have gathered while lurking a bit!

    I have an old Ericson sailboat from 1975. It has the original Galleymaid pressurized alcohol stove/oven with what I now know as 209 burners. When I first bought the boat 12 years ago, only two burners worked, one on the stovetop, and the one in the oven. The other two stovetop burners didn't work because one was clogged, and the other was missing the burner caps--which is too bad as they have the air tubes which seem 100% unavailable at this point!

    As the working burners needed servicing I sent them to A and H down in Southern California. Then as that got expensive I just bought parts from them and refurbished them myself.

    (While alcohol is expensive and not as hot as kerosene, it has served me well for the local cruising that I do. I follow the safety procedures, and aside from the fact that the burners require maintenance, I don't see why this old technology gets such a bad rap in the boating community.)

    About five years into owning my boat, I also found another Galleymaid stove/oven, except it had 207 kerosene burners that has been converted to burn alcohol. I scavenged parts from it. The jets are different, with built in restrictor tubes. I did install a couple of these burners for a while, but I could never get them to work as well as the 209 burners, as they were loud and would make the cap red hot... I actually think the jets are damaged, as the guy I got the stove from said he had tried to clear the jets with a large sewing needle, and I suspect that the orifices are enlarged.

    To make a long story longer, getting parts for the 209 burners I have is getting hard here in the US. I know very few sailing friends that still have these old stoves. Many have changed to propane, which for cost and retrofitting reasons makes no sense on my boat!

    Thanks for sticking with me so far, and here are a few questions I have, or they are my options I guess to get my setup fully functional. (I'd really like to get all burners on my current Galleymaid up and running, and not have to drop in another unit that would require a big carpentry job.)

    - I have come across a Kenyon 550 that is incomplete (no gimbals or oven racks), but the burners are intact. They look like my 209 burners, but they do not have the air tubes, and I see that Kenyon sells rebuild kits. Are the threads on the bottom of these Kenyon 209 burner likely compatible with my stove? I also like the fact that I can still get parts from Kenyon for these burners.

    - Does anyone know of any sources to find those mushroom shaped air tubes for the 209 burners that came on my Galleymaid?

    - Lastly, I have those four 207 burners...I could convert the system to kerosene I guess. Since I don't cruise internationally, and just weekend here and there with a few longer summer trips I don't feel compelled to do this however.

    Thanks for reading my story, and for your thoughts on using those Kenyon 209 burners in my Galleymaid.

    Best,
    Chris
     
  2. threedots

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    Hello @Chris S and welcome.

    From memory those Kenyon burners have a smaller diameter thread so won't be suitable for fitting to your existing stove.
    They don't perform as well as the Optimus burners in my opinion but other members may disagree.

    Your best hope is to keep an eye out for a stove that has those 209 burners and hopefully complete including the inner caps with the mushroom centers as well as the outer caps.

    There may be someone here that could assist you with those parts but as you have found out they are hard to come by.

    Some boaties have used the 207 kerosene burners instead and because you have some that would be the best alternative.

    Good luck. John