Jet hole Go/NoGo

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  1. snwcmpr

    snwcmpr SotM Winner Subscriber

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    Is there a place here that may point me in the right direction of the min/max of jet hole sizes for various stoves & fuels?

    I am about to look into buying some pins to check the hole sizes of various jets I use. I don't want to buy a whole set, just the sizes that I need.

    Thanks,
    Ken in NC
     
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    Here's my list, Ken. I have forgotten where I got it from. Someone will be along to lay credit in a bit. I've added some here and there. It's a start. The information may be correct. Use at your own risk. Your mileage may vary. ;)

    Jet Sizes

    Primus OmniFuel
    45 (0.018" 0.45mm) for butane/propane
    37 (0.015" 0.37mm) for Multi Fuel
    28 (0.011" 0.28mm) for all other liquids (kerosene, diesel, jet fuel)-smaller size allows for better air/fuel mixture

    Primus Himalaya/MultiFuel
    35 (0.014" 0.35mm) for gas and all lead free gas types
    28 (0.011" 0.28mm) for all other liquids (kerosene, diesel, jet fuel)-smaller size allows for better air/fuel mixture

    Mountain Safety Research SimmerLite
    (between #79-#78, 0.0145-0.0160", 0.368-0.406mm) for white gas and unleaded auto gas

    Mountain Safety Research WhisperLite
    (less than #80 0.0135" 0.343mm) for white gas and unleaded auto gas

    Mountain Safety Research WhisperLite Internationale
    G (between #80-#79, 0.0135-0.0145", 0.343-0.368mm) Jet for white gas and unleaded auto gas
    K (less than #80 0.0135" 0.343mm) Jet for kerosene and jet fuel

    Mountain Safety Research DragonFly
    DG (between #79-#78, 0.0145-0.0160", 0.368-0.406mm) Jet for white gas and unleaded auto gas
    DK (less than #80 0.0135" 0.343mm) Jet is for kerosene, jet fuel, and diesel.

    Mountain Safety Research XGK Expedition
    XG or GK (between #80-#79, 0.0135-0.0145", 0.343-0.368mm) Jet is used for white gas, unleaded auto gas, and aviation gas
    X (less than #80 0.0135" 0.343mm) Jet is for kerosene, jet fuel, and diesel

    Optimus
    Lipsticks - 0.23mm
    2500 Jet for stoves 00, 1, 5,45,48,210,510,100/4128 old #71 - kerosene
    2502 (0.32mm 0.013") Nipple for 1, 5, old 5R, 45, 48, 80, 123 - kerosene
    2503 Nipple for No. 2 stove - kerosene
    2504 Jet for stove 3 - kerosene
    2506 Jet for stoves 88, 99, old 123R - multifuel (petrol/white gas/kerosene)
    2507 Jet for stoves 531
    2508 (0.51mm 0.020") Alcohol jet for stove 11, 111, 199, 535A - Jet 'A' for alcohol use
    2509 (0.30mm 0.012") Jet for stoves 8R, 11, 111, 123R, 199, 5R - Jet 'M' for multifuel use (kerosene/diesel/white gas)
    2510 (0.38mm 0.015") Jet for earlier 111B stoves - Jet 'G' for gasoline use with smaller jet hole

    Optimus Hunter Stove
    2509 (0.30mm 0.012") - White gasoline, Coleman fuel


    Optimus No. 111 HIKER Multifuel Expedition Stoves - Source - Optimus International AB
    2508 (0.51mm 0.020") for 111C stove - Jet 'A' for alcohol use
    2509 (0.30mm 0.012") for 111 and 111C stoves - Jet 'M' for multifuel use (kerosene/diesel/white gas)
    2510 (0.38mm 0.015") Jet for earlier 111B stoves - Jet 'G' for gasoline use with smaller jet hole
    Note: US company gave the following measurements:
    2508 (0.0175" 0.44mm)
    2509 (0.014" 0.36mm)
    2510 (0.015" 0.38mm)

    Optimus Svea/Climber
    2506 Jet - White gasoline, Coleman fuel

    Optimus Nova - Source - Optimus International AB
    8100 (0.32mm 0.013") Jet - Kerosene/paraffin, white gasoline/petrol, Coleman fuel, diesel #1, rape seed (colza) fuel

    FSP Stove - kerosene
    0.60mm (0.024") with an 8mm hex head and an M6 standard metric thread or p

    1.0mm (0.039") jet with 4 wires taken from a wire brush pushed through so as to reduce the effective size
     
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    That is a great start .... Thanks much Gary.

    Ken in NC
     
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    Hi Dawg meister, how you doing.

    Nice list and thx.
    You have listed 2506 for 88,99,123R as a multifuel. But those guys are white gas. What gives? And 8R and 123R should be the same.
    It woud be great if some list like yours is fine tuned and put in the SRG.

    Dariush
     
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    Thanks for that list Bernie. I've saved it for future use :thumbup:

    Terry (temporarily in a hot a sunny Tucson).
     
  6. BernieDawg Banned

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    Thanks Ken, thanks Terry!
    Heya Dariush...
    Like I said above, I got the list off the internet and you have to use it at your own risk and that it may be correct. The internet is like that. I haven't had the energy or time to vet everything on the list. Good on you for doing so! And, thanks for the correction! :D/ :clap:

    Unfortunately, with the internet, and even with CCS, I've found the best policy is not to accept blindly but to "trust, but verify" any information you find. Doing lots of research on the internet rather than just coming to one site and expecting all the answers to be correct is, I have found, the only real way to find the truth in these matters. There really is a lot of baloney floating about there in cyberspace.

    And... I happened to have remembered during the wee hours of the night where the bulk of the list came from. Zenstoves! And here's the link and my best effort to give this great non-CCS site proper credit for the information.
    Zenstoves Link

    There's also a page at Zenstoves that directly addresses jet sizes more topically to Ken's original question:
    Jet Sizing Link

    As to putting a similar list in the SRG, that'd be up to the mods. I think it would be a great idea. Seems like an easy enough simple task that would further stove knowledge, make CCS a better resource, and get more information out there. But, I also know they are very busy guys with doing... uh... er... well, whatever else it is they do. ;)

    VERY USEFUL STOVIE TIP - a Dawg Secret Revealed
    So, an alternative to having good info in topics slip away is to do what I do. When I find a particularly good post here at CCS, I mail it to myself in full html. There's a button in a blue bar at the bottom of each post you can click that looks remotely like a little letter envelope.
    1401118365-email_button.jpg
    It looks like the image above. (I've outlined the button in gross Optimus green in the image above so you can know which one it is.)
    Click on the button and you can send a post or an entire topic to yourself or anyone else whose email address you know along with a personal message if you like. Just save the email to your desktop and store it in your stove folder.
    I've a large folder full of single posts on various topics in my computers stove folder. I make sure to name the posts with names that indicate their contents. By keeping this catalog of valuable posts, I can look up old information easily without even logging into CCS. The page I record looks just like the one at CCS and, since it's on my own computer, I don't have to trouble myself trying to do exhaustive searches to find it again amongst the morass of off-topic non-stove topics and comments about politics, grandchildren, daily news stories, etc, etc.
    I also don't have to worry about the data disappearing from the web if Ross gets tired of the site or if the UK is wiped off the map in a zombie apocalypse. All the CCS good stuff and none of the nonsense is recorded on my own machine.

    Now, one other Dawg secret revealed...
    If you are using any sort of cloud storage services, you can store your CCS topics folder that you've created for yourself in the cloud. I started doing this recently. It means I can be all the way down in the eighth subterranean level of the BernieDawg Labs, pull out the tablet or smartphone and get answers to questions or pertinent stove information in a heartbeat. No Google searches needed. Instant information. And, no having to go back up the turbolift, redo the retinal scans and get past the blast doors to get to the computer that's in the house. Having cloud access to all your recorded CCS good-posts can be can be really useful at stove gatherings, too.
    Hope these tips are found to be useful by some users of the site.
    Cheers,
    BD
    (I also hope people realize I'm being humorous about some of the details in my post.) 8)
     
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    Gary; I plead ignorance but I have filed many topics under CCS favorites and have never been able to find that special section ](*,) this is one of them!; how do I get to the topics section??
    Lou
     
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    Go to the top bar of the CCS window.

    Press "My CCS Panel".

    Choose "Control Panel".

    You'll get a screen that has a list on the left of stuff you can do. Second from the bottom is the "Favorite Topics" button.

    Click on that to find topics you have marked as your favorites.

    That'll do the job for you. Personally, I don't use "favorites" because it keeps all the topics on CCS servers instead of on my own machine. But, hey, different strokes for different folks and that's just fine, too.

    Cheers,
    BD
     
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    G,,day Gary . a BIG THANKYOU , you just solved a problem for me . :clap: :D/
    I did not know how to fix my problem with subscribed topics , :-k
    I had reached the maximum of 30 topics and did not know where to go to unsubscribe . :thumbdown:
    you just pointed this computer luddite to the correct place :clap: :D/ :) :content:
    thanks mate .
    cheers
    kerry
     
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    This is something that I just found here, great stuff!

    Has there been any new findings or verifications of the above list?
     
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    roll on the zombie apocalypse - it would liven things up a bit out here in the sticks
     
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    @Rickybob. It's already happened, they're just biding their time working in the Civil Service.
     
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    have you noticed.... after an election and a change of government.... we still got the same civil servants in Whitehall running things
    in the us they clear the lot out and replace the administration
     
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    ..ok..jetsize ....please