Russian silent burner

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  1. ECHO1

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    Has anyone purchased one of these and does it work? It is for a Russian 8R Clone and it replaces the Burner bell with This Silent One.

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    Let me know if anyone has Tried or owns one
    Thanks
    ECHO1
     
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  2. Harder D. Soerensen

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    @gideon
    You are the expert on this - what you think?
     
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  3. ECHO1

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    I'm Not !! That is why I am asking. I do not usually deal with Russian Stoves.
    Why would you think I would be an Expert in This ??
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    @ECHO1
    I tagged my good friend @gideon in the top of my posting - he is an expert in these Shmel burners - all in order to help you
     
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    Thank You !
    I appreciate the Referral and your help !:thumbup:
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  6. gieorgijewski

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    could be done from shmell 2 burner with late
    main question is "whats for"...
    losting power - bigger thermal mass
    wind factor
    the only one reason is - use pt1 indoor
    but pt1 has too small tank capacity
     
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    Gieorgi,
    it would be used in a semi-enclosed area. is it worth the effort to Put on a silent burner. I own 5 Pt's and they work good and wanted to try this. But if it is just a Gimmick and not a powerhouse burner then it would not be worth it. I would just keep them all as Roarer burners.. Your thoughts??
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    I tried a Phoebus silent burner on my Optimus 8R and it didn't perform well. Too big of a thermal mass to keep hot. I think that would also be the case with this setup.
     
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    Thanks Ray
    That helps !!
    Much Appreciated :thumbup:
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    Echo, if you want a silenced Russian get a BernieDawg mini cap for the PT-1. You could use it on an 8R or 123 too. Also, the enders silent burner from a 9061 or 9060D screws onto the 8R and performs well.
     
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    Ray
    I have 2 of Gary's Silent caps and I love them !! I was just looking and wanted to know if this was a good product
    Thanks Ray !!
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    I will hands down admit that my respect for Russian stoves like PT-1 and PT-2 (Ogonek) and the old Juwel family have grown considerably after @gieorgijewski was kind enough to help me get a PT-1 and 2.
    They might lack the finish and the name - but measured in efficiency and reliability - I have no problems in using both as some of my regular “Go To” stoves.
    That is also the reason why I am so happy (and proud) that @gideon made me a silence cap for my PT-2. Because I like and trust the stove.
     
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    30 notes for the burner? that's more than I paid for the clone
     
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    Rickybob,
    More then I paid also. I was just looking into it . I like the Idea of the silent burner as I take it camping and hunting. the roar scares off the animals in the morning and the PT is small enough to put in my Ruck ( kit ) .So I might spring for it and see how it works. I was initially asking if anyone owned one but I have not had an answer yet. if someone has one I would like to know how well it works. if not I have the Bumble Russian stove with a silent Burner but again it has to fit into my kit
    Thanks
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    imo - could be "good enough"
    main problems:
    1. this versions need better preheating
    - especially in low temperature conditions -> deeper spirit cups - with/or spirit cups wind shield
    - below - -7C - use - tank preheater cup could be needed
    2. "normal" pt1 is "one man pocket stove" with tank capacity and pot size limitation
    - shmell burner provoke to use larger pots - do not do that - it could generate too much heat in the tank in "long time burning"
    lower power - gives bigger (a little) fuel consumption
    - moore spirit for preheating
    3. use stove with wind shield - very importand
     
  17. ECHO1

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    Gieorgi
    Thanks
    All very good Information. I don't see a way to enlarge the spirit cup so 2 pre-heats should get it hot enough. I have a metal plate with a hinge same size as the PT outline so it works good and packs up good in my Kit.
    I think I will go for the Money and try it out. I have 4 others that will stay as Roarers and soon I will have 1 with a silent burner
    Thank You G for this good information
    ECHO1
     
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    if You think to get "good tool" - do not think about "twice preheating"
    use carbon felt or glass wire with thin brass tube as burner wind shield
     
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    Great Idea !!
    I have some Stove gasketing from my wood burner that should work just fine . I will give it a try
    ECHO1