Asbestos issue

Discussion in 'Stove Forum' started by Army J, Jun 24, 2018.

  1. Army J

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    Hi, recently had the asbestos removed from the heat shield for my No3 stove and wondered if anyone else has done it to their No2 etc and had any issues. As i have fired her up and was what effect if any will come of using it. I also want to start using my hot box oven on top so thought to ask if any you had experienced any problems. Cheers
     
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    What problems? Breathing difficulties, shortness of breath. They take a while to appear.

    On a less tongue in cheek comment the insulation is there to prevent the thermal feedback so something is advisable to stop over heating. Something mineral heat resisting, fibreglass mat would do, possibility might be cut bits from oven cloth but liable to burn that one.

    Generally you are better off leaving it in place and if seriously worried bonding with watered down PVA to prevent fibres escaping.

    As it's already woven white asbestos it's not the nasty stuff which was the blue and brown used on big steam heating pipes insulation. The legislation was primarily aimed to finish off mining the mineral in the first place, which as usual occurs in major unregulated countries.

    Do you use MDF and cut it with a power tool without proper ventilation?

    It has the same effect as asbestos dust.
     
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    I'm close agree with you, @Simes

    In other hand, whats means "PVA"?
     
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    Hi thanks. I'll have a look at a suitable replacement. I have another No3 made in 91 which only has the curved metal heat shield and no other insulation. Rather like my No2 which gets quite hot after a while. But it was designed like that and ive had no problems.
     
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    @pau-i-amor PVA is the cheap white glue used for paper, cardboard, sets hard and clear.

    It's even mixed with cement and concrete for a harder bond, available in 4litre containers at builder merchants. Water soluble a wonder material, probably found to be dangerous later so stock up.

    You can pay almost as much in a craft shop for a small bottle with a fancy label on for exactly the same stuff in 4 litre quantities.
     
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    Carbon felt?
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    @pau-i-amor , in the US, it's called polyvinyl alcohol.

    I've use it here as a mold release agent for doing fiberglass work with acrylic resins, also as a masking compound for painting autos to keep overspray off fenders, windows and the like.

    @Army J , it always makes me laugh, in the UK everyone gets their knickers in a knot over a tw*t hair worth of asbestos, here in the US nobody gives a rat's rectum, not enough to be a bother. Had a chap go on about a foot square piece of asbestos tile I use for welding and brazing, threw him out like a used condom, and for the same reason - wasn't worth a ****!

    Murph
     
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    PVA is polyvinilacetate glue
     
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    @Murph, i feel the same however the person who sold it as he didn't want to be sued. And i really wanted the stove. It seems the way of the world now to be so risk averse. And on that note I'm going to brew up using flammable liquids. Might even climb a ladder or two. Regards.
     
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    @gideon , learn something new everyday!

    Here in the US, we just call that crap Elmer's Glue, lucky if it works as described. If it's all you have, you'd best think of getting something better.

    Different names, different sides of the pond.

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    @Blueflame Thanks for the link. I learnt a lot about asbestos (the mineral not the town) during the early 2000 not long after the regulations kicked in.

    There was.considerable amount of misunderstanding about the issue and the regulatory requirements. I'm sure the local works were well looked after, not quite so much in South Africa, one of the main reasons for the Regs. That and the fact there were safer alternatives in the main uses for it.
     
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    Hi gents
    We had much more issue with charcoal
    the problem with both asbestos and charcoal is during extraction
    in England Belgium and North of France mine workers have silicosis dust desease
    with asbestos is the same problem of lung desease
    regards