I am wondering if anybody else keeps a bic lighter in with their svea 123. It fits inside the stove good and is a way to always have a lighter. Keeping a lighter in my backpack or with the stove worrys me, gets bumped and somehow sparks or starts a fire.
I have not kept anything inside my Optimus 8R as long as I have owned it, 1968. I always kept a lighter and a box of waterproof matches in my cook kit. I think I just preferred it in my cook kit because that is always what was out in my camp site and had multiple uses etc. The stove was used only when needed and only if the cook kit was in action. Also probably 99% habit. I think subconsciously I put nothing in the stove because it got dirty from soot or cooking grease, and maybe I was worried about stray sparks or flame inside a stove with fuel. Strangely the local Boyscout council did not allow the boys to use lighters nor liquid fuel. I think the lighter issue was because of the "light a fire with one match" trick we taught the boys. Heck it takes me just a flick of my BIC for maybe a second to light a fire, especially my 8R ;^), so still in the spirit of one match light. I use my lighter so sparingly that I still have the same disposable in my cook kit that I used back in the 80s. Those things last forever. So much for the safety issue of accidental fires from a disposable, ain't had no accidental fires in almost 50 years. I keep my lighter and matches, mantles, P38 and few small odds and ends inside a military surplus canvas pouch that folds up to maybe 4x3x1/2 inch. So things are snugly put away inside my Billy pot inside my Trangia like pot/pan set. I am guessing you can carry a decent quality lighter inside your stove, but might pad it a little for protection. Just my experience. Jim Henderson
Likewise Ed. I've got them stashed in places I've surely long forgotten about. But it is a relief to open up any kit and find that you stashed a lighter in it yrs. ago especially after your pocket lighter has just taken a dump. Jim
Roughly my plan as well, although I admittedly have no matches beyond several boxes of strike anywhere matches here at the house. I should rectify this.
Bugger, I'm spoiled! I have flint spark igniters built on or into all of my stoves, in one way or another! I was going to put a piezo lighter on a suitcase stove, but one of the members (@hikerduane , IIRC) said above 5-7000 feet, they're all but useless! Murph
Ditto @Ed Winskill and most others here. One of my match stashes is in my stove in one of those metal match safes. I'm starting to include sparkers in my kit, as I've encountered old matches that won't strike. ....Arch
I tend to keep a lighter inside the stove, let it be Svea 123 or trangia. My "Silver Match" lighter has a height of 45mm so it fits in Svea perfectly inside it's protective pouch. Originally it used non user-refillable butane cartridges that haven't been available for decades, but I have soldered a refill valve onto a long time ago spent cartridge.
Despite having lighters and matches stashed everywhere, I have found myself desperately fumbling around trying to get some crappy rotten matches to light. I have never worried about one sparking, and inside a stove (providing your stove doesn't leak) is a safe place.
the flint sparker in a bic lighter would be handy in a 123. i mean an empty bic lighter. not a bad idea. i'm from the school of 'matches squirreled away' in many places. i like to use shoe boxes as cook kits for road trips and always have a bic lighter and some strike anywhere matches in the box. i also keep a pill bottle full of strike anywhere in 111 cases. i have a stash of the red tip matches so i use them a lot just to get rid of them. the strike anywhere matches aren't as good at igniting as they used to be so i end up using match covers most of the time to get them to light. i keep the hoard of matches on top of a hutch where they stay dry. my observations on matches.
There are some old posts in the light backpacking world that had the sparker left with a cut down Bic lighter tank. I have a few laying around somewhere. They actually work well.
I am a backpacking instructor and have been carrying lighters with my stove in the pack for ever, never had a problem. I do not believe the ignition wheel on a lighter could be spun correctly in a backpack with the fuel flow button held in the depressed position, just try to light a lighter without using your fingers.