Good evening. Something exciting walked in my door today. Just another 27 it seems. But behold, that kettle looks a bit odd. And that windscreen is out of place. All the parts. Missing a pot? The burner must be retro fitted. But it has no writing on the lid. I'm guessing it should have one like the one in the middle here. Maybe the plastic lid broken and they wanted to be able to carry fuel in the burner, so they bought a new one. The basic design of the kettle is much the same as the one I bought earlier this year, but yet different. The lid is interchangeable to the one on my 0,7 liter Trangia kettle. Funny, the Trangia logo is upside down when put together. So, this must from the first and earliest production years of the 27!? I will take some better photos and post it in the reference gallery later on. Best regards, Vidar
Very Nice! Not from the first years of production, my guess would be it's from mid 1960's. The first/earliest sets have a "TAL" logo on the tabs. Something that makes it "later" is that the strap for the wire pot supports is bright plated. Earlier versions are black plated and/or bare steel (tend to rust). Very good thing you got a pot with yours. The current production (even back to the 70's) 27 pots are dimensionally larger than the earlier 27's with that type of pot support wires, so they do not fit well. My early 27 only has one pot, and only shows one on the instruction diagram. The first burner you show, with the 'clip on' simmer ring could be the correct one. It's difficult to tell the "correct" ones for different years, although there are some progressions in the burner that can differentiate earlier/later types. What are the markings on the bottom of the burner? The yellow cap burners are somewhat "rare". Certainly one of the more difficult burners to find. Pics of an "early" one: Metal strap & wire supports, notice the rust: TAL logo. Also "upside down". Instructions:
Thanks for additional info and some really nice pics, @Hazet Love the box! The bottom markings are TAB. Just thinking out loud here; they moved the holder for the burner from upper to lower windshield early in the 60s. When they say early, I asume that is pre '65. They introduced the threaded burner in '68. TAL becomes TAB in '62, and the plastic lid was introduced the same year (only produced in 6 years, and fragile, no wonder they are rare). So mine is a TAB, produced after '62, but has the windshield in the upper part, produced before '65. I know I'm fumbling in the dark here. It's a pity we don't have an exact year for the introduction of the 27, only "end of the 50s".
@logen Quite a find Vidar, you’ve returned to CCS with a couple of phenomenal stoves in succession (I’m thinking the large, unbranded gasoline twin burner). John
Vidar I agree with your general assessment of the timeframe of your set. I'm in no way a Trangia expert, but everything you mentioned, or I've read here over the years, or gleaned from other online references seems to be generally accurate. I don't know about them using the yellow plastic cap for 6 years though. I think if they would have been in production that long, that particular style of burner, and the caps, or at least remnants of them, would be seen more frequently. I rarely see that style burner (based on looking at a lot of ebay/tradera listings, posts here, etc), and maybe one yellow cap per year. To me, it seems like that style burner was available circa 1963. Pic from 1963 Trangia catalog: However, no yellow cap is shown. The burner top in the pic looks to be "angled" similar to the first style burner, so a plastic cap would not fit on, and the flame holes look oddly grouped along the side. This being said, all the pics in the catalog are artist renditions and are historically known to be not technically correct compared to actual production versions. They DO show a cap, an "expanderande tätningslock" which roughly translates to "expanding sealing cap". I have never seen one for sale or in pics other than in this catalog. I'd sure love to find one though! Later, in the same catalog, they do show (again, an artist's rendition) the style of burner that looks like it would accept a yellow plastic cap. It appears to have the "sraight" side upper part, and flame holes that are almost identical to the actual production locations. Still, no yellow cap is shown in the catalog. Does your cap still have the tab on it? The one on mine was barely hanging on, and I have glued it. I do not store it on the stove. It's actually a poor design, because the simmer ring, when closed, will hit the tab well before the ring is fully closed. This makes it rather easy for the tab to be broken off. I have to speculate that is why the tabs are almost always gone.
Hi again folks. Been on a small vacation for some days. The 6 year life span is something I got from Malin at the office at Trangia. She told me the plastic lid was introduced in '62, and that the threaded lid came in '68. That expanding sealing cap is interresting and I have never seen it before. My burner has the tab on the lid. I got it NIB along with a Stjernebluss some years ago. That catalouge of yours should be uploaded to the forum. I would love to see all of it.
BUMP old thread @logen / Vidar, I too thank you for this discussion thread a follow up re your That [1963] catalouge of yours should be uploaded to the forum. I would love to see all of it. I share, here, a fantastic development (that I somehow missed in January?). Our thanks to Ross for posting / linking CCS with an amazing reference thread of Trangia Katalogs ! (it links to official Trangia site, Ross gives "the credit due" , to them). 26 !!! complete Trangia KATALOGS !!! 1926 - 2015. I gave the earliest katalogs a once-over. I will have to revisit my early Trangia items for some comparisons as time allows. BTW within the katalogs we find more details re the burner developments (discussed above). A tease from 1926 katalog: NYHET , TURISTSCHATULL ([Trangia's] New Tourist Box) 1930 katalog: CAMPINGKÖKET TRANGIA för 2 personer No: 24 , and CAMPINGKÖKET TRANGIA för 4 personer No: 24 ^^^ both no. 24s , ... and btw 1930 doesn't incl. "NYHET!" re campingköket no. 24s I tag @Lennart F , but my guess, you have seen these katalogs.
bump from above: " "expanderande tätningslock" which roughly translates to "expanding sealing cap". I have never seen one for sale or in pics other than in this catalog. I'd sure love to find one though! " To see this brass expanding sealing cap in the flesh, it just posted: Trangia 25 credit Etherman. ======================== much emerged in long meanwhile but significantly today, new information to discussion is: Trangia spirit burner - Trangia The May 2022 Trangia article "Spirit Burner History" was today mentioned by Raman and Etherman. You may want it open to refer to. With that article open you can then jump over to "Trangia early model Nr.25" thread: specifically here: Lennart shares images of aluminum burner with an early Nr 25. Specifics for that aluminum burner are found below. That same thread opens with, also very early Nr 25 here . there may be more worthy of discussion but i note the bottom of Raman's very early brass burner is smooth (absent embossed logo). Raman's smooth bottom is not covered in May 2022 article. Hazet shared his lineup in sequence here . I may be wrong but get the impression he too may have version(s) not represented in the article. From May article: Note there was an aluminum variant used solely with the Trangia 26 between 1953-1962. As for small/standard brass burners: 1951 1st brass version, cross embossed on bottom, conical top w/attached simmer ring 195_? next version was same but with TAL logo on bottom 1961 version was same but with TAB logo on bottom 1963 version same but cone top reshaped to accept yellow plastic cap [1963 expandable brass cap available as accessory ] [btw from above: per "Malin... at Trangia. ...the plastic lid was introduced in '62, and that the threaded lid came in '68." ] 1971 version had new clip on simmer ring and new threaded top and screw-on cap (no more cone top and prev. caps). 1976 version same but with new large "T" logo on bottom (still in use) [ 1979 pre-heater cup is offered] after 1979 2 ridges added to side of burner to better accommodate pre-heater cup. 1983 new, adjustable simmer ring. Very soon an extruding ”handle” was added to the adjustable lid to make opening and closing easier. '83 version still in use.
