Looking for a small (preferably suitcase-style) stove...

Hi everyone!
I am in the midst of shopping for a vintage (or at least vintage style) stove, but I'm getting dizzy just reading about the multitude of different variations out there. See, my problem is that I'm trying to find something that will fit next to my sink in my volkswagen camper (not my pic, but this is what my countertop looks like:




Unfortunately its a pretty small space, which means I only have about 13 1/2" of width to work with here. I've been trying to figure out which model of stove might fit, but having some trouble. Hoping to find something that is suitcase-style so that I don't light my curtains on fire, and hopefully also using kerosene/naptha/any fillable liquid so that I'm not lugging around a big awkward propane tank or using disposable canisters.

The classic Coleman 424/425 would be perfect, but unfortunately its about 4 inches too big! The Optimus 22 also seems great, but they're pretty expensive/rare it seems. I'd love to find a 2 burner, but 1 burner would be okay. Anyone know of a particular model that might fit my specifications?

Summary: Trying to find a stove under 13 1/2" wide

Thanks in advance everyone, and happy holidays!

 

There is an older, itty bitty two burner, not as simple to operate as a Coleman, but classic, someone will know number,,,,maybe Kampkook #3?

 

A couple Coleman 500's are a half inch to a inch too wide. A couple Optimus 111's would work. My PW #4 is too wide.
Duane

 

Hi, are you looking for a propane one?

 

The last thing in this life I would do is to cook inside your type of vehicle. Do your cooking outside or invest in a portable electric for inside use.

 

A lot of VW vans came with a propane stove built in. Too wide for @dumptuck 's counter, but perfectly safe for cooking inside a van.

....Arch

 

KampKook seems like a good choice, thanks guys. I’ll see if I can find one.

Not really looking to use propane if I can avoid it, just don’t want to deal with the little disposable bottles or having to prop up a big ol’ bottle on the edge of the counter.

A lot of VW’s did come with stoves inside, unfortunately the Canadian-spec ones didn’t have the flip up countertop with the stove underneath...

Thanks for the help everyone!!

 

You may put a portable 2burner stove over the sink - just sayin' - most of them have feet in the corners making them stand safe.

 

Welcome dumptuck,
You've got good responses from membership,
VW buses are popular here.

Tight quarters.... a Canadian VW stove was a recent topic ... a propane 1 burner.
If main burner will get a lot of use, the option of a hose from remote tank is convenient (vs frequent refilling). Note your use is for a camper stove (or cabin, table top...), you're preferring a small camp stove in case (so dual use) .... or not?
I'm not suggesting Duane's response over others but do consider the versatility of two 1 burners and also the 2nd one could be small (fwiw the 2 could be very different).
thx omc

 

I have seen the effects of a propane leak in a converted camping bus - four people died
So not perfectly safe...

https://www.aftenposten.no/norge/i/nAVpd/Familie-pa-fire-funnet-dode-i-campingbuss

 

Isn't the Heinz Geniol a single burner suitcase style stove? German too, fit in with the VW.

Mind posting pics of the camper as a whole? Purely for our curiosity and enjoyment.

 

Possibly along the lines that @OMC might be alluding to, possible alcohol stove.

Keeping with the Germanic theme possibly a couple of Turm 38's.

Alcohol (ethanol) is (was) a popular boat stove fuel. Simple amd efficient for most purposes in a camper van, or.boat for that matter. With a kerosene or gasoline burner carried for those outdoors events.

Almost forgot.you'll also need a wood burner. Would be remiss of me not to mention those wouldn't it.

 

Dumptuck:

I think that older VW camping vans (1960s - 70s) came equipped with a two burner Enders stove. I've seen an advertising image with the stove on the fold out table that was located / hung on the inside of the forward double side door. The illustration was of the door open, with the pretty wife cooking outdoors. I don't know if the two burner Enders will fit on your kitchen unit in the van.

Another possible solution is a one burner hanging galley stove. The bracket is mounted on a vertical surface, and the galley unit hangs from it. The stove can be stored out of the way when not in use. I have a Forespar propane unit using a 1 lb. standard bottle. Sea Swing made (makes?) a model that takes a Primus type kero / paraffin stove.

Paul

 

Enders No: 9065 D?

 

First of all, I'm sorry to hear about this terrible accident, and I offer sincere condolences to family and friends of the deceased.

The article is about a probable propane leak that occured when people were (presumably) sleeping inside. The police couldn't find traces of either propane (which would indicate a leak) or carbon monoxide (which would indicate they were burning the appliance).

So, ok, I take your point: nothing is perfectly safe. In this case, they were operating the equipment in an unsafe manner -- either using a cookstove to heat a space with inadequate ventilation, or not taking the simple precaution of shutting off the main tank valve after they finished using the stove.

I also prefer to cook outside. We have cooked inside our van a number of times over the years, either because of rain, snow, wind (or a combination), or just because we were in a crowded place. We've never done it with all the windows closed, and have never forgotton to close the main propane valve when we finished, even though it means going outside the van to close it.

If you're going to sleep in an enclosed space, there are precautions you have to take.

....Arch

 

For those that were interested in pictures, here’s a few:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1681058.jpg
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1681054.jpg

In regards to danger of leaking gas, I’m definitely going to have a carbon monoxide detector inside the bus. A shame to hear the news about that family.

Thanks again for the tips guys. I realized that I could probably just get a regular sized stove and put it on my old Coleman cooler behind the passenger seat, if I can’t find something small enough. The bus is at a shop getting restored right now anyways so I have a bit of time to shop around...

 

Hi @dumptuck .

I posted a thread some time ago on this Sievert 925. Apparently it was OEM for at least some 60's era VW Campers. That's where mine came from. It's a great stove if you can find one.

https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/sievert-925-something-a-little-different.7932/

There is some concern about the age of the tank when getting it filled. On my recent trip to the rental center, everyone wanted to look at the stove, no one cared how old the tank was. YMMV, I suppose! Good luck in your search.

 

@dumptuck There is a Sievert 925 for sale locally to me. If interested I can PM you a link.

 

I thing this primus propane stove for sale in BC may fit there and it come complete.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/223290103365