New in box 400A, use?

Discussion in 'Stove Forum' started by Seabee1, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. Seabee1 United States

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2019
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    Alaska USA
    hi all I’ve been here for research a few times but never joined. Well I have this 400a that I bought and it’s brand new so I’m hesitant to use it as it may be worth something to a collector but not really to me. I have some old lanterns but not much of a stove guy. So the question is “should I use it or save it and buy a new one and use that” or just get my old military style stove to work? Thanks.
     
  2. Simes

    Simes R.I.P.

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2004
    Messages:
    4,539
    Location:
    I'm on the way....
    Ah, an eternal question, the answer to which only you can make.

     
  3. Marc

    Marc Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2015
    Messages:
    6,893
    Location:
    Oregon, USA
    Welcome to CCS!

    How old is the 400? I would probably sell the unfired one to someone who is looking for such a specimen and buy a used one to....use. Lots of good inexpensive examples are available. I think I paid $15 for mine in perfect working order.

    Then also get your military burner working. :mrgreen:
     
  4. Tron

    Tron Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2018
    Messages:
    230
    Location:
    Norway
    They were made for burning. They're not ornaments. If you need a stove, this is one of the best ever made. If you don't really need a stove you should probably sell it.

    Tron
     
  5. BradB

    BradB United States Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,800
    Location:
    Central North Carolina USA
    At this point the 400A is not a rare stove. Even unfired I doubt it is worth very much more than a good condition used one. If you like this model and would like to use it, I say go for it. That way you know the stove has not been abused with car gas. The little you would gain by selling and buying another one is not worth the hassle. Brad
     
  6. Duck

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2018
    Messages:
    1,355
    Location:
    Middle Tennessee
    This is why I don’t buy unfired stoves. Also why I consider myself an enthusiast not a collector. It would drive me nuts having a stove that I haven’t used. But then again I’m the type of guy that would do this.

     
  7. TheSandMan United States

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2018
    Messages:
    159
    Location:
    USA
    If we are voting, I cast mine with BradB who stated the case very well.

    Much more eloquently than I would have, which would have been along the lines of "Fer cryin' out loud, it's a cheap-ass mass-production Coleman. It's a great stove and it ain't worth squat. Burn it!"
     
  8. Ed Winskill

    Ed Winskill United States Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2004
    Messages:
    14,998
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washinghton, USA
    I wouldn't hesitate to use a new 400. But if indeed you intend to simply sell it, then unfired you'd get a few more bucks for it; but small bucks.
     
  9. Doc Mark

    Doc Mark SotM Winner Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2004
    Messages:
    19,658
    Location:
    So. California Mountains
    Howdy, @Seabee1 ,

    Welcome to CCS! @BradB gave you the straight poop on the 400A. I LOVE that stove, and have several of them, "just because", including an unfired one. However, if all I had was the unfired 400A, I would fire it up, straight away, and use it regularly! It's one of the best Coleman backpacking stoves, if a tad heavy, ever made, IMHO!! It's not worth much on the collector's market, unless you find someone for whom having an unfired 400A would be important. But, as a gauge, though I have an unfired 400A, and like having it, I would not pay a premium for such a stove, if I were looking for one today. And, that's coming from someone who thinks the power and simmering abilities of the 400A blows the doors off of the majority of stoves on the market today!! For what's it's worth..... keep it, and enjoy using it, or sell if, IF you have no plans on using it. Just don't expect to make much cash, if you sell it. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc
     
  10. HercL4D2

    Offline
    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2014
    Messages:
    529
    Pay No attention to what these old Gassers have to say. The 400 Coleman stove is getting rarer and harder to find in NIB unfired condition. It is relative to how much money you have to spend. The 400 stove is a very well constructed and powerful small compact stove for its era and is still viable today. 50.00$ and up on the E-Bay is common but hard to find in new condition.

    The valve and generator is still available at OldColemanParts but the rest are gone. I have several of the 400 series and each are very nice operating stoves. Any collector would be happy to own a new unfired 400.
     
  11. Marc

    Marc Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2015
    Messages:
    6,893
    Location:
    Oregon, USA
    My personal opinion is that stoves are meant to be used and I don't understand the unfired thing. Crank it up and make coffee and pancakes on it. I wouldn't have a Ferrari I couldn't drive either.

    That opinion aside, I know there are plenty who do value unfired status in a stove. If we fire all the stoves now because they're common and cheap, there won't be any unfired ones later. The one valuable unfired stove I came across, I passed on to someone who would appreciate it. I did come across another unfired example, still in current production and can be purchased brand new today, which I fired and use.
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2019
  12. itchy

    Offline
    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2009
    Messages:
    3,798
    I'll summarize. Do what ever makes you, or someone you know, happy.
     
  13. Ed Winskill

    Ed Winskill United States Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2004
    Messages:
    14,998
    Location:
    Tacoma, Washinghton, USA
    Or somebody you don't know, happy. Don't worry, be happy!
     
  14. Simes

    Simes R.I.P.

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2004
    Messages:
    4,539
    Location:
    I'm on the way....
    I love your first sentiment @Ed Winskill. A motto to live by.
     
  15. snwcmpr

    snwcmpr SotM Winner Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    22,059
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Whatever.
    As a collector I say leave it unfired, there are fewer and fewer.

    If you need a stove, use it.

    But, if all you are going to do is light it and never use it again, let another member, or a Coleman collector have it.
     
  16. SimonFoxxx

    SimonFoxxx Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2011
    Messages:
    459
    Location:
    New Zealand
    I have a well used brown 400 and a new, in box 400A. I value both, in different ways. The brown 400 has been a virtual life saver at times (hot drinks or meals, in very bad weather). The 400A is in pristine condition, and has a certain "beauty" in the right light. If your 400A remains NIB, I would consider bidding for it at auction, along with other collectors. I value used and unused stoves as a user and collector of such.
    Cheers
    Simon Foxxx
    New Zealand