For several reasons I am looking to buy a current production Trangia 27 kit. I am hoping to get some real life user input as to which way to go on this. I currently have a 25-5 kit with non stick pots & pan/lid, and I have really come to appreciate the non stick surface. I have read a lot about how the non stick is easily scratched and should be treated a little more gently than plain aluminum. I also put a few small 'nicks' in the coating of one of my pots with a metal fork (yes, I know about metal and non stick. At the time it was a poor choice on my part, and I have learned my lesson). I also have an older 27 kit that is aluminum (no fancy coatings). I would like to get a 27 kit that is "non stick". My real questions are: Are the Hard Anodized sets also non-stick, just with no coating? And is the anodized surface that much more durable than just a non stick coating. The Trangia site does not specify, and they do list HA kits that include a non-stick pan/lid. I did send them an email inquiring about this. Various google searches tend to suggest that HA surfaces are non stick, but again, I would like some actual user input as to the results of the Trangia HA surface. If it came down to the HA being a good non stick surface, then I would go for a 27-1 UL/HA or 27-7 UL/HA kit. If not, then I would buy a 27-5 UL kit. Thanks for any input. Jon
Hi Jon, I have had a 25-6 HA for about 7 years now, I really wanted the HA windshields and was a big fan of non stick pans as well. The non stick cookpots however I replaced for a regular UL large pot and a HA smaller pot (both trangia). Why? They get damaged in transport quite easily (scratches from rattling pots and the stuff you put in it when the stove is packed up) and they are quite heavy compared to the UL or HA pots. The non stick fry pan I kept on using. The non-stick surface is still in pretty good condition. Trick for non-stick cooking (without non-stick pans) is to use the simmering ring. When using an alcohol stove you shouldn't be in a hurry, so cook slowly. HA pans do have slight non-stick properties. On a recent canoe trip in Maine, USA, I cooked in hard anodized pans (Banks FryBake pans) over open fire. I even baked a chocolate cake in one of those pans, without sticking. And should there be some food stuck to the bottom, just soak it in some warm water and it will come loose. The frybake pans you can even scrub using scotchbrite metal sponges without damaging the anodization. In my Trangia I use the alcohol burner and sometimes (winter time, melting lots of snow) I use my Optimus Nova built into the Trangia base using the cup Trangia provides for the Nova burner head. Should I have to buy one again, I would nog get any non-stick pans anymore, just hard anodized. Hope this helps. Good luck choosing. You can't go wrong with a Trangia, I still love it to bits. Seb
Welcome Dutshy! I have used paper towel between pots so they don't rattle and make scratches to each others. That also helps to keep inner most pot's outer surface clean when I am not able to properly clean outer most pot. (Outer pot is just plain stainless steel pot from Tatonka. That I use mostly for melting snow and boiling water.) I have had that non-stick inner pot for 7-8 years and it's coating is still in very good condition. I have mostly used plastic utensils to keep non-stick coating in good shape. I have been lazy to use frying pan so I use that same pot for frying meat, fish, sausages, etc.
DuoSSal pots are indeed very durable, but depending on your way of hiking, they might be a bit heavy compared to alloy pots. Besides that plain aluminium conducts heat better, so less fuel consumption and a faster boil, but I don't know exact numbers. Probably negligible on short trips. I have never seen any worn out alloy pots BTW. Of course depending on how you care for them.
O, and by the way: Trangia sells a grey plastic disk (mulit-disk), you can use as a snow base, chopping board and colander. If you pack your stove together, the disc nestles inside the frying pan, and so protecting most of the non-stick surface of the pan.
Morning, All, I'll chime in on this, as DuoSSal is near and dear to my heart! DuoSSal pot sets are our most favorite for actually cooking. They work FAR better than plain aluminum pots do, with no scorching, or burning. Along with the long discontinue Sigg Inoxal pot sets, pots like this have served us well for many, many years, and we almost always choose them over the other types of cookware! But, hey, if you are a "boil the bag" type of eater, than plain aluminum is just fine. In truth, and with care, regular aluminum works fine for cooking too..... but the DuSSal works better, IMHO. For what it's worth..... Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Thanks for the input, especially your observations Dutchy. Now, back to the original point: " I would like to get a 27 kit that is "non stick"." I sent an email to Trangia-- Hello. I have been using Trangia for a while, and am looking to buy another 27 set, either non-stick or hard anodized. I have a 25 series which is non stick, and I like that very much. I have not used a hard anodized set. Is the hard anodized also non-stick? If it is not, what is the benefit of the hard anodized surface over the non-stick surface? Thank you. Jon In reply, I received this from Trangia-- Hi Jon, As you know with nonstick you need to use wood or plastic tools to save the surface, its easy to fry in ,easy to clean . Its not the same with hard anodised (HA) , its regular aluminum with a surface treatment that makes it harder and scratch resistant. Saves the aluminium from corrosion. Harder to fry in ,you need oil or something. Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards Since my initial post I have been to several outdoor type stores looking at various hard anodized pots/pans, and for some reason it just doesn't sit well with me as being super non-stick. I have just spent a few days camping with my aluminum Trangia 27/alcohol burner and having a couple rather "stuck" meals. The whole time I was scrubbing my pots/pans (even after soaking them a long time), I kept saying that if this were non-stick I would have been done in 10 seconds, rather than 10 minutes. Example: Trangia 25 non-stick, chorizo, eggs, artichokes, parmesan cheese. No sticking, wiped out the pan, was done cleaning quickly and effortlessly. Disregard the fork in the first pic, it just happened to be there. I used a rubber spatula to eat. I have decided to go with a 27-6UL non-stick kit. I think it will best suit my needs. I am not a big 'boil in the bag' type eater (sometimes it is rather convenient though), and I often like to make things on the fly with whatever is around. I got home from camping this morning, did a quick search, and bought the 27-6 kit. Can't wait for it to get here for the next outing(s). I realize that it will involve me using slightly different cooking utensils. However, the main utensil I used this past trip was a small rubber spatula and hardly anything else, so the change won't be that drastic for me. Part of the reason for me wanting to get a 'modern' 27 kit is to use the X2 burner I have, as well as getting a Nova burner for it at some point in the future (yes, I know there is some debate about heat from the Nova and the windscreen). My current 27 kit is the older style and I did not want to cut a hole in the base. Regarding keeping the non-stick surface intact, I agree with what Afterburner has said. I keep a heavy paper towel between the pots of my 25 kit. I can adjust the corners of the towel so that the pot supports rest on the towel when the kit is packed up, keeping them from scratching the pots.
Congrats to your choice of the non-stick pots. IMHO they work much better than HA or normal aluminium. I tried making pan-cakes in several pans with several stoves or even on open fire. Works always good with non-stick pans (only some very little oil required), but almost not at all with my HA-pan (or plenty of oil is required). Interesting to see that you spice up your meal with some snow flakes - worth trying out . Or is it only common mildew ? Regards, Philipp
Congrats with your new stove, the trangia is excellent. The nonstick work really well but is a bit fragile. I choosed the 25 with nonstick and the omnifuel burner for my motorcycle trip last year. I went from Geneve to Ulaan Baator and back. The nonstick whent completely FUBAR after ratleling around in the panniers. But for normal use it will be fine. The omnifuel burner was brillant, it burned diesel, 80octan etc, without problems.
Hello, nice to meet you, I am new here. Joined just this evening so bear with me please as I learn my way around this site. I own the Trangia 27 UL/HA cook set. The pans and skillet are not non-stick. They do, however, tend to stick less than the non-coated base models. Are the UL/HA sets stronger? I think so, especially true for the newer cook sets of today. Of course the older models from the 1970s and before were build like tanks so they really do not compare to today's UL sets. I love the UL/HA set. I pack them mostly for moto-scooter and motorcycle tent camping outings. Have not had any problems with dents or cleaning of them, they have worked well for me and I would buy the 27 UL/HA cook set kit again should I ever need to do so. I, too, did consider the non-stick versions but after reading several reviews thought they might be less sturdy over the roadways and paths when on my bikes...chipping/flakes. Anyway, hope this helps somewhat. With Trangia it is hard to go wrong with any of their product offerings as long as they are The Original Trangia and not a knock-off.
Hi, Just now saw that you did go with the non-stick 27 kit. Guess my security was checking all the photos before but now I see your updated post. Congrats on your choice, seems to be the right choice for your needs. Nice that you cook ~real foods~ while out and about. I, too, am not a boil-in-the-bag kinda cook...unless it is raining and late evening.
I have a T-25 standard set, with the non stick frypan. Boiling/simmer stuff in the Alu pots, sticky fry stuff in the frypan... No major problems (yet).
View attachment 226787 The hard anodised made a mess of pancakes: I purchased a 27 and 25 ultra light hard anodised (UL HA). I had the plain aluminium version for the 25 model and non stick for the 27 model. I tried to make pancakes using the new HA pan and the pancakes stuck to the pan. Trying to pry them off just made a mess. I used lots of oil and tried lowering the heat, but it still stuck. The HA pots did not stick for I was cooking a stew with lots of liquid. I have put my old pans onto my new set. Even my old aluminium pan did not stick pancakes. The HA does not like pancakes!
Thanks to the moderator for re-posting this HA-Duossal thread! The 2019 T-25 Duossal is very close in weight to the T-25 in HA, if memory serves it is 1.030kg, HA is 865gr. Hm, lots to think about!
I have HA in the 25 and non stick in 27. I like the HA very much, but I intend to replace the frying pan with non stick. I don’t like having to scrub out in the woods away from easy water sources. I have had the non stick for several years and I keep it protected with the original bubble wrap packing. It still looks new. Brad
In my small, remote community we can only get Trangia by mail-order, which is the case for many things. Canada's Mountain Equipment Co-op has chosen to carry T-25+T-27 in 2019 Duossal, but with Non-Stick fry-pan-lids. I too must cram my kit into bike bags, rucksacks. I am all too aware that the frypan is also the kit's lid. From what I can tell, the frypan-lid is non-stick on the cooking side, also on the outside. Not sure I can spare the space and weight for the Trangia padded zippered foam case, nylon bag I can probably do... So...how prone is this frypan-lid to denting? I'm not worried about the outside frypan surface scratching, as that won't effect cooking, but I try to avoid dents. Not that I fry stuff when out on the land! Mostly boiling water! I could order a Duossal fry-pan-lid if that is significantly more dent-resistant, from yet another mail-order source, Canadian Outdoor Equipment. I do wonder about the lower T-25 windscreen, which becomes the outside of the packed T-25 kit; is it worth paying extra for an HA windscreen ($$$!), assuming that HA is more dent-resistant that regular aluminum? Don't think they make Duossal windscreens!! HA is much more stealthy in wildlife observation blinds, but Duossal is actually cheaper here, via MEC.ca. I can reduce the new kit shine by soaking in hot dishwasher machine soap solution, but HA is lighter...hm...!
I have used Trangias for a very long time and am not gentle on my equipment (rucksacks, bike panniers and the back of a Land Rover) but have never managed to dent anything! My only failure has been a titanium T27 frypan that warped rather extremely after a long session over a Nova burner. This almost certainly would not have happened with the alcohol burner. The damaged lid has been replaced with an HA one, which has not been used to cook in, just as a lid, and it still looks brand new. A non-stick lid would save some weight too - the T27 Duossal one is 152g. I have both T27 and T25 windscreens in HA, but use a much older T27 most of the time (old enough not to have the gas or multifuel cut-outs). Not sure if this is just a case of what I am used to, but the older windscreens feel much more robust. The downside is weight - for the T27, 313g for the original upper and lower windscreens, against 267g for HA. And, of course, not available new. I would also agree with the comments above about Duossal being the best choice for cooking with. I still have Ti pans for both T27 and T25, which are wonderfully light, but only use them when I really need to reduce weight.
