Coleman Alcohol ??

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  1. oops56

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  2. AllanD

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    Looks like a garden variety 425F stove to me
    (see the last PIC of the actual stove marking)

    Though It doesn't look like it was used much...

    And No, it isn't an alcohol stove it is a Coleman Fuel Stove.

    Coleman has yet to really embrace the idea of alcohol mixes let alone
    alcohol alone as an appliance fuel.

    Though there was the relatively short production run of 285A-710 lanterns
    labeled for use with 10% ethanol in gasoline.

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    the second ones look like original MSR's I believe it was the number 9? This stove was the ancestor of the XG then later the XGK.

    Am I right?
     
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    Hey, 111T,

    On the MSR stoves, the one on the right is actually an X-GK, and the one on the left is an older version, probably the MF. The left one has a crushed vaporizer tube, by the look of it, and is missing at least the latch that should hold it onto the fuel bottle, if not more things. If they can be had cheap enough, they might be worth a try. But, if the price goes very high, at all, it will cost you way too much to get them up and running again, especially the MF. But, what the heck, eh?!! ;) 8) :lol: Take care, and God Bless!

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    It uses a 412-5621 generator which is a Coleman white gasoline generator. The seller must be misinformed.

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    I cant see how the seller is miss inform the instruction are there with the stove
     
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    Some people lack the ability to read the instructions to an outhouse let alone a gas generator stove.

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    I'm willing to bet money the seller doesn't know, and could not possibly care less what that 425 burns. All he wants is for it to sell. I see so many ads both on eBay and craigslist where the seller has pulled all his "facts" out of his ass. This is just another classic example.

    I've seen 400 series Coleman stoves advertised as burning kerosene, diesel, jet fuel, alcohol, peanut oil, used motor oil, and best of all, charcoal.. Facts have little to do with some folks attempts to sell something.

    Caveat Emptor.

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    the one that worries me more than that, Thug., is someone selling a Primus #54 claiming it to be a GASSOLINE STOVE. So, I made sure I bought it so no one would hurt them selves on miss information. ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    That's a good and caring Lad, Hobo!!! ;) ;) 8) 8) :lol: :D :D

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    Turned out it was a 1946 jobby. Onepot ended up getting it for what I paid plus S&H to him.
    It's outer dome had been sat on or something. And I simply didn't have the means (surprising, huh? ;)) to get her fixed up.
     
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    How about a Coleman oil lantern. Because the seller saw the word 'oil' stamped on the pump housing cover next to the little hole.

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    Or the seemingly blanket assumption by many Ebay sellers that a 220K lantern MUST burn Kerosene... "because that's what the K stands for..."

    And I suppose the "J" on a 220J means that it runs on Jello?

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    P.S. never underestimate the stupidity of some folks that sell on Ebay......
     
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    It truely can astound you. :lol:
     
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    Back to the original question, did they make a two burner Coleman alcohol.
    A little Googling found model 348 marine/trailer stove burning alcohol.
    And a kero version model 345. I was fortunate to pick up the kero burner last week, actually two single stoves in a metal surround with baffles.
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    and just as you described. you could cook on top of the boxed stoves or remove one and cook on it . Very few were made and at that time alcohol wasn't the marine fuel of choice not yet anyway. Dan
     
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    Yes, but the 425 pictured in the auction isn't one of them.

    I know someone who still has a propane stove in their boat...
    Makes me think they are a bit nuts, but it's their butt that's going to
    scorched...

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    There are tens of thousands of boats equipped with propane fueled stoves. Used with a little common sense they are no more dangerous than any other stove. If propane was as lethal as some would have you believe the news would be constantly filled with casualty counts.

    I have installed hundreds of propane cook stoves in sail and power boats from 20 to 90 feet in length without killing or maiming a single customer or burning down even one little marina.

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    Took the words right out of my mouth, Mr Thug. Propane/Butane must be the most widely used cooking fuel afloat, in small boats (and ships!) Installations range ( :oops: ) from the very sophisticated to the very crude, but by following a few simple safety procedures one setup is as safe as the next. It is probably safe to say that people who still use a paraffin setup are viewed as ever-so-slightly weird. This side of the Great Water alcohol as a marine cooking fuel is most popular in the Baltic rim countries.

    I have a vague recollection of a Coleman marine stove consisting of a polished alu. box with baffles/fiddles and IIRC a couple of nickel font 500s set up for alcohol.

    I could live with that. :)