Trangia Non-Stick Vs Duossal Frying Pans

Hi all,

I've been joined up here a little while but this is my first post. I already searched through the forum to try and find an answer but I couldn't so I'll ask here instead! After burning an egg to the frying pan of my Trangia 27-UL and having to resort to REALLY hard scrubbing to get it off I've decided to upgrade to either non-stick or a duossal one.

What I want to know is which one would you pick and why in my situation. I use my Trangia for a quick coffee whilst out exploring on my motorbike or weekend camping doing pasta, bacon/eggs ands other simple things.

I'm not too worried about price because I bought my 27UL for £5 off our stock clearance guy who comes round my work regularly. It was still it its box, wrapped up and sealed but something had been dropped on it and dented the windshields pretty badly; 10 minutes work with a panel hammer on the anvil and it looked stellar

Cheers guys,
Lloyd

 

Howdy, Lloyd! @WingedWheel ,

Welcome to CCS! Regarding your question, I like both the non-stick, and the Duossal. But, if I HAD to pick just one of them, I'd choose the Duossal, hands down! It does increase the weight of your featherlight 27UL. But, in your situation, I think it will serve you very well, and it's exceedingly easy to clean. Mind you, I'm not talking about walking away for four years, and the crusted food is akin to Nuclear Waste!! ! Take care, and God Bless!

Every Good Wish,
Doc

 

For durability - definitely Duossal 2.0 - but I don't know your frying skills!
Non-stick works very fine but doesn't stand bad overheating or sharp violence - personally I have old and new aluminium, Duossal and non-stick Trangia pans - mostly I use latest non-stick with butane or gasoline stove(frequently Radius 46 lately) just for the convenience.


I have a Trangia 27 with mixed pans, spirit burner and Multifuel X2 in the car all time just if...

 

Hi Lloyd, welcome on board!
Like Doc and Lennart I'd also go for the Duossal one, easy to clean and scratch resistant.
A small question on the side, does @WingedWheel refer to the "engine build in bicycle rear wheel" by BSA?

Best regards,

Wim

 

I have a "Winged wheel" - old japanese Feuerhand lantern knock-off - the small red one...

 

Cheers guys for your help! I'll probably get a Duossal one once the world round here gets a little more normal! @Doc Mark if anything gets burnt to a duossal pan, can you still give it a scrub with a brillopad/fine wire wool or will it muck up the stainless?

@Lennart F I looked at an X2 stove but I couldn't justify the cost of one at the moment. Is it any good?

@Wim good guess but i'm afraid not, the winged wheel was a very early symbol for motorcycle clubs and I always liked it. I do have a BSA but its a 150cc Bantam currently sat as a jigsaw puzzle waiting on restoration. A Suzuki SV650 is my current steed.

Cheers guys,
Lloyd

 

Bar Keepers Friend works wonders on cleaning the stainless side of the Duossal.

 

X2 burns virtually any petroleum based fuel from LPG(Lindal valve always in place) to diesel and probably most fully liquid furnace oils too and it is fully "Trangia adapted" from factory and very easy to use and shift between different fuels - but it is not good at simmering and I suspect the fuel economy is less than perfect. Omnifuel, Nova and other with regulating at burner are better stoves but more complicated and expensive.
My weekly user 1993 Yamaha Virago 1100 likes fuel too but it was cheap to buy and is very reliable and comfortable and relatively easy and cheap to service and repair.

Today with standard exhaust and full set of large all weather compressable bags for practical use.

 

@WingedWheel ,

Truthfully, in all my years of using Sigg's Inoxal, which is akin to Duossal, and also using Duossal, itself, I've NEVER had any food burn. Those two combinations of stainless steel, and aluminum, are just about perfect for cooking, and unless you wander off on a far away adventure, whilst your food is cooking, I think you will not be experiencing much burnt-on foods in those pots. Sweet Bride and I LOVE cooking in them, and have never had a single problem. For what it's worth....... But, if you did need to use something more aggressive to clean the stainless part of your Duossal, it should not be a problem, at all! Good luck, have fun, and let us know how it all turns out for you! Take care, and God Bless!

Every Good Wish,
Doc

PS - Please note @snwcmpr , comment above, about using Bar Keeper's Friend to clean your pots, if needed. His is a great recommendation!

 

I have never had a Duossal pan, but I do have a non-stick for my 25 and I LOVE it. Did some mushrooms yesterday with it on an old Coleman stove. I tried frying eggs on my standard 25 fry pan a few years ago, and the only way to make it work was to put a 1/4" of oil in pan. Now frying is a snap, and clean up is just as much of a snap.
Might have to get a Duossal and see what I think, but can't imagine it being better than the non-stick.

 

Go for DuoSSAL, you'll never look back!
And pass on the X2 - buy an Optimus Polaris insted. A much better multi fuel stove burner for your Trangia. Put it as it is, with folded legs, in the Trangia. Or buy a part no 788205 Burner cup /adapter for Multifuel burner and fit the legless Polaris in that one...

 

I have used both non-stick and duossal a lot, I much prefer the non-stick. How you avoid sticking in the duossal pans I do not understand, no matter how little heat I use most foods still stick a little in the duossal. If I fry bacon in the duossal I have to use som oil or butter, in the non-stick I don't need anything. The duossal is fairly easy to clean though, never needed to scrub them with anything abrasive. And they last a lot longer than the non-stick pans.

I agree about the trangia X2, its rubbish for anything but boiling water. Especially with liquid fuels. I sold mine and got an original Trangia multifuel, made by Optimus. It is simply a fantastic stove. I also have converted a few Optimus Nova and a Polaris with Trangias own adapter, very easy and great stoves. I actually just made coffee with the Polaris in a Trangia 25.

Tron

 

Cheers guys for your advice! @snwcmpr I'll have to look out for some Barkeepers Friend next time I brave the apocalypse and head to the shops

I've just woken up early and cleaned my old Trangia 25 ready for selling (was only used once, poor thing!) so I'll hopefully use the cash from that to get a nice new DuoSSal pan and maybe a non-stick one too for a comparison. If anyones after an essentially new 25-2UL I know a guy

Cheers all,
Lloyd

 

The key to not burning your food is flame control no matter what the pan is made of. The nova plus burner helps a lot in that area. I have never owned any trangia product other than the duossal and I can tell you that I probably never will. I have fried sausage and eggs without burning them. If you do burn something just add water to the pan and bring it to boil. That will help a lot in reducing the needed scrubbing. I personally use Barkeepers friend for all of my scrubbing but have made soap in the pan on the fly (wood ash from the fire and the grease in the pan) and used soap and baking soda mixed for scrubbing.

 

+1 on the non stick. I don’t like scrubbing pans out in the woods, so the non stick suits my needs. At a campground with lots of water I don’t mind scrubbing. Disclosure: I don’t own the duossal, but I imagine the dual layer allows more even cooking with its additional mass. Brad

 

@Cookie yes I'll admit flame control would probably help me alot! I'm so used to just using it for brewing up I still need to refine my simmering skills.

@BradB do you find the non-stick pretty versatile/hard wearing?

 

Morning, Gents,

@WingedWheel ,

One problem that the Non-stick has had in the past is that of "blistering". It's never happened to me, but I once bought a used MSR Non-stick cook set, and one of the pots was most definitely damaged from someone using too much heat, and walking away from it, when they should have been staying put and keeping an eye on their cooking!! I've read that others have had this problem, too. So, once again, though the Non-stick is handy, it's far more fragile than the Duossal products. Just my additional 'tuppence.

Doc

 

My non-stick has held up wonderfully through two years of occasional use, still looks like new. After mushrooms this weekend I had a small area that I thought maybe something stuck/burned, it wiped right off, still looks like new. Again, I do no have the Duossal, but can't image anything could be better than non-stick.

 

I have had the non stick in 27 size for 7 or 8 years, no issues with it. As Doc said, though, I am not a neglectful cook who walks away while cooking. I like it enough that I recently bought another in 25 size to replace an anodized pan. The anodized one had warped some, which didn’t really bother me, but I like the non stick enough that I wanted it in the larger size as well. The 25 size is perfect for small trout!

 

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