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  1. z1ulike

    z1ulike United States SotM Winner SotY Winner Subscriber

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    This is a Standard domestic stove. The pot support legs are not removable.

    08 Stove.JPG

    03 Standard.JPG

    04 Fuel cap.JPG

    05 Grate.JPG

    06 Burner Caps.JPG

    07 Funnel.JPG

    Ben
     
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    Pretty cool that... Francophiles, comme moi, would be proud of such a stove...
     
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    Hi @z1ulike What a nice stove, and interesting! I have seen that maker’s name ( on the filler cap of your stove) before!

    He also made this Eperon D’or I have:


    EPERON D'OR No. 1. (Golden Spur No.1).
    Pierre Michaux
    83 Bis Rue de Rivoli,
    Paris.
    The trade Mark is a spur containing the letters M R.

    Eperon D'Or No.1. French Stove *

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Thanks Ben.
    I guess I have a question, sorry... you attributed it to French manufacture, due to the only text on the stove, yes? Or is there more?

    My comments in-general:
    It appears to be a fixed leg discus, off top of my head is a are combination.
    The pump itself but also the connection to discus tank is not familiar.
    I have a soft spot for nearly all discus stoves but a fixed leg hasn't made the list.

    Re-badged stoves are common place but this is maybe just badged?
    You will have a closer look but appears there may be no other markings on the tank? bottom? and that after tank was assembled, the "STANDARD" badge was added? .. from what I see (which, if so, that would be "different"),
    has an unmarked silent burner...
    corrections welcome.
    ---------------------------

    I post to add cross reference searchable text:
    STANDARD
    MARQUE DÉ POSÉE (trade mark)

    "STANDARD" searching CCS French gallery get's you Ian's example, not sure it's related.
    and
    French inventor " PIERREMICHAUX "
    CCS search, as kerophile points out, links to his roarer burner.
    Interesting stove there, thanks again.
     
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    @OMC The "Standard" badge attached to the tank are the only markings beside "Pierre Michaux" on the tank fill cap. I think @kerophile is probably right that "Pierre Michaux" manufactured this stove as well as his EPERON D'OR No. 1. Other than that I don't know anything else about the stove except I bought it on eBay France about 5 years ago.

    I don't remember why I bought it but I'm sure it was to see what the flame looks like coming out of that slotted burner cap. I'll have to get it fired up and post some flame shots.

    Ben
     
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    The cast iron pan holder of Ben’s Standard stove appears to be the same as on my Eperon D’or stove.
    So the two stoves seem to share both filler caps and distinctive pan-holder.
    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Just a thought...

    Is it possible that the “ STANDARD” Marque Deposee does not refer to the stove manufacturer but to The Standard Oil Co?

    It is not unusual to see the name of Oil Cos. and suppliers of kerosene engraved on stoves, alongside the Manufacturers brand name. There was often a tie-up where stoves would be offered at a discounted price when customers signed up for fuel supplies from a particular fuel company.

    There are numerous examples of stove manufacturers/ Oil Co. links on CCS:

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/vacuum-oil-promotion-stamp.36172/#post-372796k

    Help identifying this Svea Model!


    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Hi George @kerophile , the word Standard on the trois ètoilles stoves is not a word on its own but part of a name, the Standard Oil Co. It has no similarity with the Standard name on this stove, that clearly stands on its own (there is no mentioning of Oil Co ). The name Standard Oil was changed in ESSO shortly before the 2nd WW (but not globally at the same moment).
     
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    I made ball valves at "Grove Valve and Regulator" for a couple of years. '80 - '82. One of our biggest and best clients was SOHIO, Standard Oil of Ohio.
     
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    I hadn't thought of that but it is a possibility. "Standard" is not an exclusively English word however. The French use the same word so no help there. Since there are no other markings on the stove beside the filler cap, no mention of "Oil Company" as @Wim points out, and that it's a "Marque Deposee" or Trademark tilts the evidence towards stove name but who knows.

    That reminds me that I've got a bun footed Vacuum Oil Co. stove around here somewhere. I'll have to dig it out and post some photos.

    Ben
     
  12. Conny C

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    Hi Ben,

    I have serious doubts about Pierre Michaux as the maker. I have seen several GPA,s marked Pierre Michaux.
    One is like an Ultimus parabolic heater of mine …. P M could be a wholesaler or retailer!

    /Conny

    Pierre Michaux Ultimus heater.jpg
     
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    Maybe Pierre Michaux just made filler caps and sold them to different manufacturers LOL! Seriously, I have no idea who Pierre is or why his name is on so many stoves. You're guess that he was a wholesaler or retailer is as good as any. Thanks for making the observation. Perhaps a french member will be able to sort things out.

    Ben