Surplus Swedish army Stove/Cookset (alcohol)

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  1. Kenh157

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    Stejar

    No sooner had I signed off than I realized that I had neglected to ask you to
    please translate the text.

    I apologize but I have no knowledge of your language and as such would
    greatly appreciate it if you would make this translation.

    Thank you,

    Ken H.
     
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    Note the rolling block rifle in that link. I wonder what that sweetheart cost for the reinactor. Anyone want to take a guess as to it's caliber.

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    12.17mm (.48 cal) http://www.svartkrutt.net/engrem.php
     
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    Most interesting Mick. Thank you for your search of this information. I do not have any rifles older than 1886 and that is a, bolt action, 10 shot, tubular magizine, made by Styre, in 8MM x54R iirc. The old rolling blocks were very fine weapons and much stronger for their weight than the other period guns.

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    Lance I have two Sniders (577) and a Martini in 577-450 (not to mention the Lee Enfields) and to keep this thread on track I also have two Swedish Army Trangias! :D
     
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    Hello, Mick,

    As Brother Lance has already said, thanks, very much, for that information! I appreciate your knowledge along these lines, as I do not possess any "modern" arm older than 1896, which is a Model 96 Swedish Mauser, 6.5x55mm, made in Sweden. I have another Swedish Mauser, this one a Model 94, made in 1899, by Mauser, in Oberndorff, Germany. Working the action on this M94, is like sliding two polished and oiled glass plates against one another!! Very nice workmanship!! Mick, it's a true pleasure to know some old school Brits who have knowledge about firearms, as do you! Thanks!! You've made my day, Mate!!

    Getting back to the thread, I find it interesting that, just as each Swede had his own firearm, each one also had his own stove and cookset! I like that idea, very much, and can see how it worked out quite well. I would guess that fuel resupply would have been the only problem. I do not have one of these Swede kits, but am now tempted to go get one. From the look of it, I would think you might be able to have a small stick fire inside the bottom part of it, if you could not get fuel for your spiritburner. Is that right? Not the best situation, I'll grant you, but better than nothing, push come to shove. Lance and I visited a desert town, in which they had an Army/Navy Surplus store, and from which Lance obtained a very nice M1950. They had another M1950, not as nice as the one Lance got, and also some of those Swedish setups. I may have to take trip down there and liberate a Swede, and that other M1950, while I'm at it!!! 8) ;) 8) :D Thanks, again, Mick!! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    It's a fact that the Swedish Mausers very often win a lot of the historic arms competitions at Bisley; I could write a book about the number of times I have been beaten by a Swedish Mauser :( even on a good day with my Lee Enfield.

    Moving on....... are the billy cans in steel a lot rarer on the SAT?
     
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    So it would seem Mick. i have two of these kits myself and have been looking for a SS one for some time. When my brother was lookiing for one i happened to find a Stainless Steel kit and would have kept it for myself had i not been far from home and moving ever closer to his place.

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    The link between aluminium and alzheimer's has been discarded these days from what I read.
     
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    "The link between aluminium and alzheimer's has been discarded these days from what I read."

    The links between many health issues and what goes into one's body have been discredited these days.

    You see, the multiple of "opinion" is not "data."

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    Yes it is, if you're a democrat ! :lol:
     
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    Gerry, talking to a doctor last year, he thinks you would need to eat out of aluminium for several lifetimes before the problems began, I'm more worried about using teflon to be honest mate

    Back to the army Trangia, they are heavy beasts, about 800 grammes if memory serves me and they are slow to cook, not my favourite setup to be honest. Your better off with a billy can and small gas stove really?. A four pint billy with bale handle and frypan/water boiler lid for an open fire, Epigas Micro stove and 220g of gas comes in 150 grammes lighter than the swedish setup
     
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    Just a quick translation of the description at the bottom of the pages. (The text on the top is the admin lingo. Every kind of military equipment has its own special designation. The M-number.) I really should have done that right away, but I was in a bit of hurry.

    Kokk?rl M/40:
    Mess tin M/40 is made of stainless steel or aluminium. The top part (the lid) has a handle and will hold 0, 7 litre (0, 25 to the rim). On the handle there are loops where you can put a stick if you want to fry over open fire. The bottom part will hold 1, 5 litre (1, 3 to the rim) and has a handle and hook and is therefore suitable to heat food in.

    Enmansk?k MT:
    One-man stove (MT = with accessories) consists of alcohol burner, windscreen for cooking pot and alcohol bottle 35 (0, 3 litres) and is used with mess tin M/40. (The mess tin is not part of this article.)

    I will rummage through my ?archives? and see if I can find the soldier?s instructions for the mess tin M/40. As you have seen by know, the mess tin has changed very little for the past 150 years. My own experiences has although mostly been with the ?Enmansk?k j?gare? (or one-man stove; ranger) i.e. mostly Optimus 91 with the same blue-flame burner as the M/40, or when up north, the Optimus 85 Loke.
    Doc Mark wrote:
    If you run out of fuel you would normally just light a fire, rig some branches over it and hang the M/40 pot in the hook.

    Stefan
    Likes the M/96 Mauser by the way. The first rifle I learned to handle when I was 15.
     
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    Hello, Stefan,

    Many thanks, for the outstanding information you've shared in this thread!! Much appreciated. Also, it's great that you like the M96, too. I have three Swedish Mausers, and all are outstanding rifles, as is the 6.5x55mm cartridge. I have done some pretty amazing long distance shooting with my original M96, and fell in love with the mild-mannered, yet amazingly accurate, 6.5x55 cartridge. Some of my friends have told me that many moose are still harvested with that round, up in your neck of the woods. With the heavier bullets, it will penetrate almost as well as the absolute best, and much heavier rounds, and far better than most everything else that's out there today!! Great gun, great cartridge! Someday, I would like to find a left-handed modern rifle, in that caliber, to add to my stable of fine Swedes!! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    Doc you live in the 1750 time period they only had black power you got to catch up :lol: :lol:
     
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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Nothing wrong with black powder. It never goes bad. If it absorbs water, and it will, simply dry it in the sun and put it back in an airtight container. The 1lb tinned steel cans it's sold in are perfect. 150 year old black powder has been found to be in perfect condition. Smokeless powder, while better for most applications, can and does deterioriate. Often in as few as ten years.

    If you're feeling brash, BP can be dried in the oven. Spread it on an alumin(i)um cookie sheet and place it in a warm (not over 200F) oven with the door spaced open an inch or so. An hour or two and both your powder and your nerves should be crackling dry. :roll:

    I have made all my own (3) powder horns. I sealed the base plugs with hot beeswax when I installed them and made the spout plugs from fiddle pegs because these wonders are: A. Cheap, Cheap, Cheap, B. Made of really exotic materials such as
    Ivory, Rosewood, & Plastic, and C. Have a tapered body that seals air out absolutely.

    I applied several coats of hot beeswax to the warmed horn itself, rubbing it in well to get it into any pores and cracks. I have had no trouble from my BP in more than forty years.

    Obsolete ol'

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    I'm fairly concerned about what I put in my body -- rising rates of cancer and Alzheimer's are caused by something. However, I heard that the purported link with alumin(i)um was based solely on autopsies showing elevated levels of Al in the brains of people with Alzheimer's. There's been nothing since to suggest causation.

    And, considering that Alumin(i)um is the third-most common element in the Earth's crust, if just exposure is enough to cause Alzheimer's, we'd all have it.
    ....Arch
     
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    [quote="ArchMc"

    And, considering that Alumin(i)um is the third-most common element in the Earth's crust, if just exposure is enough to cause Alzheimer's, we'd all have it.
    ....Arch[/quote]
    Some days, I wonder.
    Other days, well...
    Hmmm ? What ??
    :lol: :lol: :lol: