Coleman 4M ... what is this shield for?

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  1. fimbulvetr

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    I’ve used a 1963 Coleman 4M as my main car camping stove since I picked it up for $5 at a garage sale 30 years ago. Recently I picked up a spare 1961 4M for $30. I figured as the portable camp kitchen box I built has a slot custom-fitted for a 4M, it would be nice to have a spare just in case mine gives up the ghost ... it gets pretty heavy use, as we do a lot of camping throughout the year. My original is pretty beaten up after all these years, and needs a good cleaning (I haven’t gotten around to that since our last trip).

    My original 4M has a metal shield in it at the front of the stove, while the new to-me one doesn’t. I just always assumed it was part of the stove, but from looking at pictures of 4M stoves online, it appears this is some sort of non-standard bit. At least I haven't found any other examples in my searches.

    Any idea what the shield is for? Heat shield? To keep the inside a bit cleaner?
     
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    BradB United States Subscriber

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    Coleman 413GLooks like a food drip pan. Later Colemans built one in, as on a 413G. If you look closely you’ll see it here.
     
  3. fimbulvetr

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    Could be. It doesn’t catch anything, though. It is just an angled piece of metal, so drips just run down it into the stove under the burners.
     
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    Hmm, don’t know then.
     
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    @fimbulvetr A heat reflector I reckon. My well-used Coleman suitcases typically have sustained scorched paint at the top of the front panel in the vicinity of the generator. With anything other than the smaller pots burner flame is deflected there from a pot base.

    This Coleman 4H for example.

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    Ok, I was pushing it a bit with that Dutch oven (!) but any pan or kettle with that sort of overlap can cause it at higher flame settings.
     
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  6. fimbulvetr

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    Looks like the scorch damage on mine!
     
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    None of my stoves have one. But it looks like a good idea.
     
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    @presscall , I love the mix of fuels for that Dutch oven. Gas and charcoal! Quite creative.
     
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    There's a good bunch of folks at Coleman Collectors forum, they may know, and at the least would enjoy the pictures of it!
     
  10. BrianP Canada

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    It is one part of a three piece reflector which was part of a "Toast, Broil, and Bake" set people could buy...I will locate the correct name of it and repost.
     
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    It is one of the three baffles for a Coleman Toaster Griddle Broiler, model 5140. It was an accessory for 425 stoves, had three baffles, a rack, and a griddle plate.
     
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    @fimbulvetr Cheers @BrianP for clearing that up, a solution to the scorched front panel issue that a griddle would provoke, as a larger pot base does.
     
  13. fimbulvetr

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    That looks like it! Mystery solved.