is there a list of stoves categorised by size . i have a really nice 00l hopefully arriving tomorrow ,but i seem to have got the bug an i would like a silent burner as well maybe with a 1 1/2 pint tank but with recoverable legs an fixed feet so it could go in a box in the car im not sure but i think i have seen something like this. thanks paul
"Normal" and regulated silent burners can be used in 00 with suitable riser: Regulatable Optimus 00 with 207 burner I am not sure if there is 1,5 pint collapsible stove. Optimus has 1 pint 00 and 2 pint 45 but I haven't seen middle size 1,5 pint version.
Hi Paul, welcome to the forum I do not know of any list but there are a few 2 pint collapsable with silent burners. I have found the Valor 55c to be a well built and reliable collapsable silent burner stove. They are reasonably common in NZ so I would expect it to be the same in the UK where they were made.
There are loads of 1 3/4 pint collapsible stoves with silent burners. A great many models from many manufacturers.
Most of the pack away models were intended for outdoor use and so were built with roarer burners. However, makers soon realised that transporting fixed legged stoves was inefficient due to the package size, so produced knockdown models which allowed for smaller cartons and therefore cheaper transport etc - these would have included silent burner models aimed at indoor domestic use. Often these do not have the reserve cap and the riser tube is soldered into the fount, with the joint being where the spirit cup sits, as they were not really intended for travelling use. Burners tend to be quite interchangeable though, and I have read of stoves designated as one or other burner type being apparently supplied new with the other type. The next size up from the 00 is generally designated as the 2 pint stove although usable capacities may be less. Optimus 48 is the silent version of the 45, and I have a silent burner on a British Twigg Buflam with a chromed fount and collapsible legs, that I would not regard as having been intended for travel. Many of the 100 models had the lipstick type burner as on the 96's, but with both silent and roarer adaptors to fit the burner bell.
@luap re "is there a list of stoves categorised by size ."? No., not that I'm aware of, catalogs do reference size but not sorted/listed "by size". your "stove sizes" question has a context of collapsible 1 pinter No. 00. Responses might be from around the globe but "UK influence" references basic stove sizes by, a 1 filling capacity in Imp. pints. "Basic sizes" of Swedish and UK made brass tank stoves are (Imp pints): 1/3 pint, 1/2 pint, 1 pinter, *1 1/2 pint, 2 pinter (and onto larger sizes you're not asking about). *1 1/2 might not be viewed as a "basic size" as they are a rare niche compared to the 1 & 2 pinters. If you're wanting a collapsible stove bigger than your 1 pinter you might consider a collapsible 2 pinter. Your request is for a 1 1/2 pint collapsible. much more rare, my gut says they exist, my initial search did not find one. What are out there are 1 1/2 pint fixed leg. The Primus 0 & 4, Optimus 0 etc etc, the Primus & Optimus 0 IIRC offered 1920s to 50s. --------------- @Ed Winskill said The Optimus 48 is not a 2-pint stove. It is 1 3/4 pint, and has many 'cousins' of the same type. For clarification, re "basic sizes" I continue to go along with the 100, 45, 48 are "2 pinters". As for the type, this is the popular discus tank. In hindsight it is more accurate to add (to that quote) that, when the capacity change to the stoves occurred is less clear, the capacity change is (finally?) accurately reflected in the catalog in 1972. I point out Optimus as an example, the same is true for other makes and models Many users at the time and today were not aware of this reduced capacity (shape of tank bottom differs). -------------------------- TMI, same topic, basic sizes and "2 pinters" MANY early stoves have an actual capacity of 2 1/4 pint. For those I also continue to go along with long time "basic sizes" (here & elsewhere) and refer to them as "2 pinters" as well. Again the 1 1/2 is rare, for the most part. Re basic sizes the context is often in simplest terms: 2 pinters standard size (aka 1 & 5 sz., in many millions of households through the centuries) vs 1 pinters smaller size. For camp stoves (sm. % of brass stove production), the 1 pinters are popular. vs MANY smaller 1/4, 1/3, 1/2 pint camp stoves that are often referred to by model vs size.
thank you all for your reply's ,a model 100 seem to take my fancy i like discus shape tank and seem great with the option of fitting different burners i keep reading about when they were first made how under powered they were for the size due to having the same lipstick as a 96 but i feel this may have been for economy an may have been a selling point at the time
"...discus shape tank and seem great with the option of fitting different burners." That sounds like a good choice. We will like to see what you eventually acquire. good luck.
This from 2014. There are innumerable references here at CCS down the years to the 'discus' stoves as 1 3/4 pint or 1.75 pint stoves. It's not my nomenclature. It's always been recognized that these are nominal designations, of course. I don't doubt that some 'fat bottomed' discus stoves models would hold 2 pints. To me, a 'one-pint' stove is a 210, 00, 121 and a host of others. A Primus or Optimus 1 and 5 are 2-pint stoves. Optimus 45 and 48, Svea 105 and 106, and their ilk are 1 3/4 pint stoves. I derive this from long usage here, not from any measurement of mine. This of course is English language usage. What they are called elsewhere I don't know.
Your response to AB "The Optimus 48 is not a 2-pint stove. It is 1 3/4 pint,..." for you may be plain. I opted to provide some clarification, and fair to mention esp. given AB's "2 pint Optimus 48". You do not seem to appreciate. my quote from 2014 "approx. 1 3/4" (re something else but that's ok, an accurate quote) my quote from 2015, along with the discus tank fat bottom revelation comes down to early Optimus discus are 2 pinters, later became 1 3/4 pint. In quote, I site details from 5 Optimus catalogs. 4 indicate the 100/45/48 are 2 pinters. 1 (1972) indicates the 100/45/48 are 1 3/4 pint. With all due respect not sure where one's doubt (or belief) comes in.
well i ended up with a albion not 100% sure what size it is i saw it put in an offer didnt really think it would be excepted as it was not far from start price it needs a pump cup .i like the access point for the jet i believe these were also badged as parsons & coleman i wounder if they are a copy of any primus stoves
I'm sure that's a 2 pint stove made by RM Berlyn . Their brand was Parasene and their model no would be 230 but they also made stoves for others including Plumbob and Two Tigers as well as the brands you mention . The burner with the screw access was patented by Townson and Coxson (Burmos) in 1943 so made under licence or when the patent expired in 1963.
thanks for the info. does this look like a leather cup or the plastic one i dont know but think it should of been plastic
Not a great photo, but looks like the remains of a plastic pump bucket. Have a look at this old thread: Typical pump assembly It is possible that the type of pump assembly used in your Albion stove relied on by-pass flow on the back-stove to allow the pump to work. Best Regards, Kerophile.
