It's been a long time since i have been active on CCS,But a big hello to all members and those who remember me from when i was a more active member. Here are a few pics of a monitor 17b, which was given to me by a member of an air gun club i belong too all so a British military stove which i we be added in it's section soon
Hello and welcome back, Brian. Personally, I feel I live here! Last we spoke (or it may have been the time before last) your spare time was being taken up by ornamental garden pond construction. Lovely gift of the Monitor. Work to do on it to get it fired up? I’m interested to hear about the military stove. Regards, John
Hi john thank you very much for your kind welcome, must be three or four years ago, i have another new hobby in the last five years now, i have joined a Air gun club which i have got well into but my love for pressure stoves lamps and blowlamps has not gone, But i promise to be a lot more active on here, with comments and general chat. I need to service the stove John, as the pump cup has dried up and wont pressure the stove, and all so i noticed there is no brass gauze in the burner tube, i have ordered a sheet of fine from ebay and a service kit from the fettle box, due to the postal strike i have not received either yet but cant wait to get it running again. Even though the tin box is not in the best of condition due to some surface rust, but i don't think the stove has had a lot of use as there is no heat marks and the wind shield looks like it has never been used on the stove,, On another note John i was sadden to hear a while we lost a few of our very valued members
I know, sorely missed. Air guns eh? They interest me, though I haven’t taken up the hobby as you have. I’ve a Webley .177 smooth bore pistol I’ve had since I was a youngster, still in good condition and capable of punching a hole in a target, or a reasonably tight group even, at a moderate distance. My ex-soldier Dad drilled me on keeping it cleaned and oiled as he did his Lee-Enfield in WWII, or as his Dad kept his Lewis gun serviced in WWI!
Your be surprised the value of your webley, the older rifles pistols have become collectable in the Airgun world, the oldest airgun i own is a BSA light pattern rifle dated from 1924 that is used in our vintage and bell target competition. Forgot to mention earlier John, as soon as the brass gauze and service kit arrives, i will add more pictures to the post. The fellow who gave me the monitor 17 all so gave me a British military No 2 but has the tank heat shield and pan rest/gridle indoors some where, when he finds them i will fettle it and post it
A few more pics of the 17b, with all new seals from the fettle box, and new bras gauze which was missing as mentioned at the start, i purchased a new reproduction spirit bottle, the spirit bottle i chose was for a older Primus stove. I took these pics out side, to show it lit and a few flame shots, but within just a few mins of it being lit i noticed a pool of liquid under the tank, on investigating i found it was Paraffin and noticed it dripping from solder seem and running down to the center of the tank. I have drained the tank, and dismantled the stove replacing the traveling plug, then pumped a copious amount of air into the tank and immersed, the tank in water i could not see any air bubbles what so ever to indicate any leaks, i even filled the tank with water and pumped it to a high pressure, but still no sign of and leaks, i will dry the tank out and fill it with fuel and and pressure test it again to see if is leaking, then i can re solder the offending joint, but here are the extra pics
Welcome back @mr optimus nice post Very clean stove just recently found one of these doing a clearance job not in quite as good a condition though It’s currently in the ultrasonic cleaner hopefully it will clean up as it’s not in the best condition and I’ll get it fired up once sorted Unfortunately one of the arms is missing shouldn’t be to easy to copy through Can’t believe how small and compact these Monitor stoves are will be interesting to see how long the burn time is.
Hi Stu sorry for the delay in responding, many thanks for the welcome and complements, I've all so got a ultrasonic cleaner a 6 lit ive used it for cleaning clock and watch movements, in fact i'm restoring a military n02 and i've used it to clean the parts on that, here's a pic of my one
@mr optimus I wonder, Brian, if the fuel was leaking from the vapouriser to tank joint. Such a shiny example wouldn’t readily reveal the tracking of fuel from the joint, down the top and sides, then dripping off the low point of the base profile - not so obviously as it would if the stove were tarnished. What then may have happened is that in removing the vapouriser and replacing the travelling cap before your pressure test, the cap made a better seal than the vapouriser had done. Worth checking the vapouriser’s mating surface with the seal for nicks and cracks. Check too that the vapouriser ‘lipstick’ portion joint with the threaded part is fuel-tight and that the lipstick doesn’t have a crack in it. John
Hi john that is exactly the problem, i replaced the lead washer and never nipped up the tube enough, next day i filled it with fuel and pressure tested it, and no leaks at all, and same when i fired it up,i forgot to mention this in the post, many thanks john for reminding me i must do a pic with it running, i suppose im a bit rusty since the lay off LOL
Forgot to say John there was a bit of yellow in the flame, not a great deal,but i will need too peen the orifice soon, i will do a flame shot in the dark so it can be seen better i do that tomorrow when i get home
On that stove with a stamped metal (as opposed to cast iron) flame plate you might find it beneficial to raise the plate on the ‘fingers’ that slot into the burner bell. Even a fractionally increased distance between the jet orifice and the impact surface of the flame plate can enable more air to mix with the fuel vapour stream, restoring the correct fuel/air ratio.
Brilliant solution John, i give that a try i'm going to fire it up later and i will post a flame shot, many thanks John for the all ways great help and advice. by the way the paint and the Svea arrived today
@mr optimus It may just do the trick. I know catalogue illustrations aren’t the most reliable of sources, but if you take this example … … in comparison, your flame plate looks a bit low - maybe!
Hi john i have adjusted the flame spreader like that, i have had it running in the garden, ill post the pics in a while just going to watch the repair shop i recorded yesterday i be back in half hour many thanks again john for your valued help
