Taykit - what kind of gasoline ?

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  1. catogan

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    Hello !
    I 'm planning a trip on my motorbike next summer.
    My question is: can I use uleaded gasoline (98 octane) in a Taykit ? I mean, the same as the bike. So I have to carry a little plastic tube instead of a bottle with explosive stuff...
    Thank you for your attention.
     
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    Good Morning, Catogan,

    I use white gas, or Coleman fuel, in my own Tay-kit stove. But, I seem to remember that, in the original instructions, it mentions that the Tay-kit stove will run on any kind of petrol. Have you checked out this site to see if there are any instructions for that stove? Using the same gas in your bike and stove WOULD be an outstanding advantage, that's for sure! Best of luck on your decision, and if it were me, I'd test the stove, completely, with any fuel you choose to burn in it, BEFORE you leave on your trip! ;) Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    Hi Guys,

    I thought that there were issues with the additives to Auto gas that made it questionable from a health point of view.

    Iain

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  4. Georgi

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    keep a lid on things to avoid foul fumes from your gas alternative.

    It does say any type of gasoline but I haven't tried it..... matter of fact I've forgotten I even had this stove until this post!

    To the garage! ( I'll have to play with this soon....)

    Cheers,
     
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    CAUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    Do not run 98 octane gas in any burner stove self pressurizing or pressurized! :shock: This is just asking for disaster. Even duel fuel stoves are meant to be run on no more than about 89 octane fuel. The pressure build up is to great and it builds up fast, not to mention if gets to hot to touch, you could risk explosion. I love to mix fuels but I never mess with high oc! Take a small flask with some a little more docile. Good luck.

    Rob
     
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    "Take a small flask with some a little more docile." ...

    ... or a different bike. ;)
     
  7. russ

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    If I'm wrong, please explain, but I don't understand why folks think there's more energy in high octane fuel. As far as I know the base fuel has the same energy in either 87 octane or 93 octane. The additives to get higher octane delay ignition, so why would 98 octane be more dangerous than 87?

    For health reasons, the fewer additives the better; I wouldn't go near leaded fuel, but as long as you stick to unleaded... (Where are you getting 98 unleaded? I haven't seen an octane like that at the pumps for many years.) Another additive to avoid is MTBE (do a google if you don't know what it is). Serious health issues involved with MTBE; it was initially added to get cleaner air but now they're finding it in the water supplies in California. Apparently, it's rather difficult to remove from water.
     
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    Russ,
    You will find that the Taykit burns a small amount of fuel so you will not need much to support your needs. Gasoline is dirty with the additives etc. Why risk fouling up the wick and clogging the jet in the coil. Take along some Coleman's in a small tin. It will burn cleaner and more efficient and you won't have the bad smell and grime.

    Chuck
     
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    The octane no is just a measure on the resistance aginst self-ignition, Kero has an octane no near 60. This may be boosted by adding different additves, who may cause dangorous fumes. :arrow: For the stove theese additives may cause gumming if stored for weeks, and clogging after some hr,s of burning.
    I would not recomand automotive fuels inside tent, or indoors. Many of my friends use gas from the MC-tank, but stores the stove with emty tank, or filled with white-gas, and burns the first tank with white-gas on every trip. They claims this keeps the stoves running without trouble for yrs. :lol:
    :idea: The stoves they use ar Optimus or Coleman gasoline stoves.
    :shock: I do not belive the octane no may have any influence on the pressure, but if so the easiest way to reduce this problem is to let the air, volume in the tank be greater, so if its enough for the cooking do not fill more than 1/2 full when using high octane. :p


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    For the amount of fuel one would likely use in a Taykit, even on an extended trip, would the saving in fuel cost by using motor fuel be worth the risk of gumming up and possibly ruining a stove that is impossible to repair and difficult to replace? The Taykit was made when the the additive list in the choice of "Any Type of Gasoline" was much more limited than it is now.

    How much fuel is going to be expended at what cost? If that tiny hole in the coil plugs up, the stove becomes scrap. A liter of coleman fuel in a Sigg fuel bottle is not that dangerous when used with a modicum of common sense, and will run a Taykit for a coon's age.

    Any coil burner would be near the bottom of my list for a stove to be used on a trip. A Svea 123, or 71 or an Optimus 8R, or 80 would be at the top. Much more reliable and if the jet gets blocked, easily cleared.

    My $0.02
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  11. catogan

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    Thank you all of you !
    I have a made a quick summary: no gasoline from the pump but lighter's fluid (here, in Belgium, Coleman is almost impossible to find).
    Here is the result:
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  12. Doc Mark

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    Good Morning, Catogan,

    Well, if you're burning ligher fluid in your Tay-Kit, it looks to be burning nice and cleanly! Great photo, thanks for sharing it! As I have not done it, I have no idea of any long term problems using lighter fluid as a stove fuel. Anyone out there experiemented with this before? But, like I wrote, from the photo you sent, it appears that your Tay-Kit is burning the lighter fluid very cleanly. Good luck, and have fun on your trip!

    Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc Mark
     
  13. Ed Winskill

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    We've discussed lighter fluid in the past; it works well. It's naptha, as is Coleman. In fact, I remember that after this first came up, I went and took another smell of Coleman in the can. Smells like lighter fluid, in fact.
     
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    Please, lets not go down the path of (old Camp joke for Kids):

    Smells like lighter fluid!
    Tastes like lighter fluid!
    Glad I didn't get any on my shoes!!!

    Iain
    (Too many skits at Cub and Scout camps latter)

    May the Spirits be smiling.
     
  15. Henry

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    If it helps I run Coleman Fuel in my Zippo lighter