Which year ?

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  1. Firedevil

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    Can anyone the year of this stove by the stamp ?

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    Optimus didn't use any date code, so you can't get a year by that stamp.
    Possibly a period if the design of the stamp varied over the years.
    I'm sure someone else know better when it comes to that bit.
     
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    Ok, thx
     
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    @Firedevil

    can we tell "the year"? as in a specific year... most often no.
    In very broad terms it is somewhere 1910-1940.
    We can provide a more narrow year range after considering
    *all the details.

    Several fellow stovies have made progress w/early Optimus dating.
    if yours is just a web image, myself, i may pass on your inquiry, sorry.
    If you have the stove in-hand (do you?) and
    *you provide more detailed images,
    I WILL be glad to assist with a more narrow year range as hobby time allows.
     
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    It's certainly burning well! 8]

    The pump know has a very reddish copper hue to it, looks like it has been left in a vinegar bath for too long at some point and some of the zinc has leached out?

    The experts will be along soon, but the fact this is a version marketed for the Vacuum Oil Company may help narrow things down a bit....

    Have a look at this similar example belonging to @igh371
     
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    Hi, on the basis of the distinctive filler cap, mid to late 1920s:

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    Kerophile.
     
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    THANK YOU
    with comparisons I've done here ,
    so far,
    it seems to me your Optimus 1S, for Vacuum Oil, dates from 1920s (1921-on, and i doubt it is later than '29)
     
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    Sunflower No. 1


    Some corrections:
    1931 the name Vacuum Oil Company changed to Socony Vacuum Corporation.
    1934 Change to Socony-Vacuum Oil.
    1955 Change to Socony-Mobil Oil Inc.
    1966 Change to Mobil Oil Corporation.
    This would mean the stove is pre 1931, if the name Sunflower disappeared 1931 completely. But there was a German/Austrian branch at least until 1938 named Vacuum Oil AG in Vienna.

    Radler
    So it looks like the Sunflower brand and name might have disappeared by 1931.

    Best Regards,
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    Thanks to all