Juwel No6 jet size

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  1. nmp

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    Does anyone know the size of the nipple jet on a Juwel Number 6 vapouriser should be?
    Mine measures up at 0.55 which I assume is too big I want to peen it down before fitting new mesh inside it.

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    Hi Nick
    I don't have any way of measuring, but I can't fit a .3mm wire or any standard size wire prickers through mine.

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    @Ray123 thanks a lot for that info!
    Iit’s a rare stove so I knew a response would be slow!
    Does yours burn ok?
    A 0.55 hole seems huge to me?
    If yours runs ok mine is defo oversized.
    Thanks for the response
    Nick
     
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    @Ray123 just noticed your avatar looks like it’s going well so I have answered my own question. Is that a Bernie dawg flame plate on it?
     
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    If I had to guess I'd say .28mm but I can't confirm that. I haven't fired it up for a few years and forget what wire I used at the time. I'll take a look at it later and see what's what.

    Yes that's a BD flame plate. Before I had that I made one from steel plate that worked OK. Dimensions should be on the site somewhere.
     
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    @nmp

    Fired my Juwel yesterday. I've had the stove since June 2013 so a ten year anniversary firing was due. The jet hole is so small it's barely visible and I can't fit any wire I have through it. Even so, 1 pump sends a fountain of fuel through. Sorry I can't be of more help but thanks for your post that gave me a good reason to revisit these awesome burners. They are nearly silent and produce a wider than usual flame pattern. Art and Fire, what's not to like.
     
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    @Ray123 many thanks I fired mine last night and it’s definitely oversized all I got was yellow sooty flames. So into the realms of peening we go! Glad this prompted you into firing the old girl up!

    cheers Nick
     
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    @nmp by bet is still on 0.23 :)

    Nicola
     
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    @Nicola Francesco Elia @Ray123
    I Peened it down to about 0.25 and repacked the lipstick with wire mesh.
    A Much better flame but a bit lopsided unfortunately, plus the thick copper flame plate I made is not as good as it could be.
    D64536CB-B119-470F-8E7D-433981570FEE.jpeg It may be over fueling still.
    I may have to bite the bullet and get a Bernie Dawg flame plate to get an accurate idea of how it performs.
     
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    That’ll shed oxide scale like crazy Nick, sufficient to disrupt combustion and jet output.

    If you like I’ll give the vapouriser a hypodermic needle insert, which would produce a properly-aligned jet output, whatever you decide to do about the flame plate.

    John
     
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    Good eveng @nmp. If I may interject. I never forged lipstick to Juwel 6, but when forging to 96, every time, after checking the diameter I did a test by pouring water into the tank and pumping. Then you can see well if the direction of the jet is vertical. If it was at an angle, I marked the spot near the hole and lightly forged from the opposite side. And so, until the result. Of course, remembering not to plug the hole.
    I do not know if I helped anything, but I share my humble experience
     
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    Sorry John @presscall . At the time I wrote my reply ( it goes down for a long time with the translator) I did not see your suggestion for help.
    Of course, I confidently recommend your solution.
    Greetings
    Stanisław
     
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    Good solution @Knee to ensure the peened hole is aligned.
     
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    Hi John @presscall thanks for that kind offer.
    I may take you up on the offer!

    You are correct about the oxide, I used the copper as it was in my stock (and easy to work) as a way of testing the stove and never intended it as a permanent thing, the Bernie Dawg plate was already in my sights.

    I will take a look using our friend @Knee Stanislaw’s suggestion to see if I have it aligned first out of interest and try his remedy!

    The prospect of dragging the brass mesh back out does not fill me with joy it took about 3or 4 hours first time, but out it will have to come if I send it to you John.

    I will update you all with progress soon.
    Thanks again
    Nick
     
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    How come, Nick? A pair of forceps or even a hook formed on a stiff piece of wire serves with the usual ‘96’ vapouriser.
     
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    @presscall the Juwel 6 lipstick unfortunately has a very tiny hole to insert or remove the mesh, for that reason I never replaced it

    Nicola
     
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    Probably the lipstick body was silbrazed to the lipstick base after the mesh was inserted.

    Nicola
     
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    Ah right, I’ve not examined one.

    @nmp Complicated construction evidently Nick. Were I do do the repair you wouldn’t have to remove the gauze. The heat to silbraze the needle insert is very localised, just to the tip, and wouldn’t impact on the gauze inside.
     
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    @presscall Oh thats a relief.
    I will try and straighten the peening which is only very slightly off.
    If theres no improvement I will let you know and I can arrange delivery etc via PM.
    Thanks Nick