I recently acquired a Turner 2 burner stove from @Hazet . Model 1161. I cannot seem to find very much information on it. What I do know is: > It was made by Turner Brass Works of Sycamore, Illinois. > It was probably made for military contract. > Turner used a valve, where Coleman used a lever, to allow air release with fuel during the preheat. This was also used on the Turner lanterns. This stove has a nice, secure way to keep the burner assembly and the tank assembly from moving around during storage/travel. You can see in the photos below the swivel locking mechanism for the burner assembly. There is also a 'collar' for the generator, with the tank assembly turned 'Up Side Down', that then uses the grill to hold the assembly into the collar when the box is 'locked'. When in use the generator is 'locked' into the manifold with a threaded collar that cannot fall off of the generator tube. It took quite a while for me to get the stove preheated, and then to get the flame to settle into a blue glow. That may be because of the broken pricker in the end of the generator. I believe that this stove uses the pricker to assist the valve in flame control. It was quite an 'adrenaline check', while preheating, to have a gushing of fuel flow through the manifold and into the stove box. And that was with the valve just cracked open. On the next preheat, after changing my pants, I opened/closed the valve as needed to keep the flame lit and heat the generator and manifold. That worked until it got hot enough to vaporize the fuel and, as you can see, I was then able to open the valves for a pair of blue flames. Enjoy, Ken in NC
Hi Ken, your Turner is different than mine. Here are some pictures for you here is a picture of mine regards Jan
Morning, @snwcmpr , @scouterjan , and All, I never saw this thread, when you originally posted it, but found it exceedingly interesting on many different levels! One, is that I love the look of this stove; Another, is that the build quality appears to be very, very good, and this stove should be exceedingly reliable, I'm thinking; And, I must tip my hat to you, Ken, for your skills in working on such interesting, and little-documented stoves like this!! And, scouterjan, many thanks for your input, too. I read the other thread on this stove, where you two Gentlemen, as well as @cottage hill bill, kicked the informational football around, and back and forth, in the repair of the broken-off genny cleaning needle! I am simply in awe of such skills, and the intrepid fettling that can be accomplished through the practice of such!!! WELL DONE to all three of you Gents!!! I almost shudder to even give THOUGHT to attempting a project such as you have embraced, Ken! Thanks for sharing this, and sorry I missed it the first time around! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Ye Olde Doc (who possesses not the skills necessary to work on such things and admires the hell out of those who do!!!)
I am so glad I found this post, I can see what the original color was, I have one of these stoves, but it was painted silver, and I really wasn’t sure of the correct color so I could repaint it. They really are nice stoves…
Yes, it came out later. @cottage hill bill was instrumental in that information. The color did not mean military.
A single burner Turner that same color was what got me started on general GPA collecting. At the time (45ish years ago) I was a militaria collector and my Turner was sold to me by a militaria dealer as a military stove. Over the next few years I learned that 1., that dealer was well known for his fanciful descriptions and attributions and 2. no known military ever used that or any two burner (with the exceptions of the M1941 two burner aka Coleman 523 and the British No.3). I'm not sure what made the American suitcase stove makers use khaki, olive green and other colors similar to military colors but Turner, Prentiss-Wabers and others did. When you think about it, a two-burner suitcase just doesn't fit any military need. It's too big and heavy for an individual to carry, it would take up all the space in a backpack and make a godawful racket. It's not big enough to feed large groups. If you are a frontline soldier you're just trying to heat up water for a hot drink or a canned ration in a barn or dugout or some other semi-sheltered very temporary place. If you're not in the front line then meals are being prepared by designated cooks in a relatively safe rear area for large numbers of troops on larger stove set ups. Even the M1941 one burner was originally intended for tank crews and other mounted troops. It worked so well that troops were willing to hump the extra weight for the benefit of being able to have something hot especially in Italy and northwest Europe in the winter. The success of the M11941 led to the development of the lighter, smaller M1942 and M9150. The M1941 two-burners that weren't sent to the Medical Department were issued to tank and other vehicle crews since the vehicle carried the weight not the trooper.
@cottage hill bill , the M1941 also brought about the Coleman Model 530 stove for civilian use. The M1942 stove was brought about as a lighter stove version for mountain troops with its smaller fount, it was even easier to hump over the high country. With its stainless steel fount it would heat up easier than a brass or steel fount and build pressure inside the fount better at higher elevations.
