Prisma No 5

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  1. Stanisław Grajewski

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    Good evening, everyone,
    Prisma is a mysterious Swedish stove of uncertain pedigree ( probably Optimus clone ) poorely represented on CCS. Prisma No 5 was never seen here.
    Beeing on vacations last summer I found it on one of the polish auction sites and I bought it. They sent me it to the post automat in Białowieża so I had an opportunity to shoot photos in a rural enviroment more suitable as a background than my house.

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    the shape of the tank lid is obviously Optimus-like.

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    The shape of letters suggests possible manufacturing period - after WW1

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    And recommendation od American Petrol Company products suggest the partnership ( joint venture ) of American capital.

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    There is mumber 7 stammped on the bottom:
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    The copy I acquired was provided with SVEA trivet:
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    and a letter " S " on the pump knob:
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    Construction if the burner is similar to this presented HERE ( Optimus 55 S )
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    At the end of warm-up time the rest of spirit burns in a small pit in alkohol bowl. Then the flame is guided by small channel to the top of the burner and becomes a lighter for vapours of kerosene.
    The finel test ( made already at home ):

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    Thanks for watching.
    CU
     

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    These are actually made by Optimus, just as Lux stoves were also made by Optimus into the 1920s,

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    Stanislaw a great example of a rare stove!
    Indeed, here (CCS) there are few of them.
    I understand that during the vacations, you also intensively " hunted".:lol:
     
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    @Stanisław Grajewski What a fascinating stove, very well preserved, with some very attractive features. Thank you @abbahco1 for the additional information, always something new to learn, a thinly-veiled Optimus...
     
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    "Prisma" is as close to "Primus" as you could get without breaching a patent! PW
     
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    Excellent!

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    I had a similar speculation as to origin. (I bought a Prisma 00, a one-pinter, early on.) Particularly after Ross narrowed it down to Optimus. Perhaps a short-lived attempt to skate close to the widely known Primus trademark....

    One wonders if they just dropped it or whether or not a letter may have gotten sent.....
     
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    @Knee
    Yes, all the time and everywhere :)
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    @abbahco1
    In comparison to our times, using similarity of the name - there were only timid attempts to increase the sale ;)
     
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    This particular stove was made for the Belgian market. The recommandation to use "petrool" (this is very old Flemish for petroleum and put a smile on my face...:lol: ) made by the American Petroleum Company is in both French & Flemish. This is merely a way of advertising, there is most probably no connection between Optimus and A.P.C. . Standard Oil Co advertised on the Trois Etoilles stoves made by SVEA for the Belgian market.
     
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    @wim van diepenbeek
    Thanks for this information - I understood that this inscription you mentioned is Dutch, sorry :oops:
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    Ed: I think there's even a rip-off of the PRI-stove-MUS logo. P
     
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    @Stanisław Grajewski , dutch is in fact a flemish dialect but don't tell any dutchman! [-X :lol: ;)
    Oh, and, I'm simply Wim, not wim van diepenbeek.
     
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    O.K.. I will follow. Not even mention, that my older sister lived in Utrecht and worked in Rotterdamm as a professor in Rotterdamm Conservatory ( High Music School ) for about 46 Years. So forgive me, that I did'nt recognize those differencies - everything looks for me Dutsch.;)
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    Then there’s English: just badly pronounced French.
     
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