Why is my 111 gurgling?

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  1. elcarlstono

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    Just got this 111B this morning. After changing the cap gasket and unsticking the NRV, it fired right up. I thought I heard it while it was running, but after shutting down it was very apparent. It was happening with the cap on or off. Literally sounded like someone taking a pee inside a jar.
    You may need to turn up your volume:
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  2. IvanN

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    Is there water or water vapor boiling away. How long have you ran it ?
    No basis for the theory, only guessing
     
  3. Afterburner

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    Maybe fuel is boiling in fount or in tube that goes to burner?

    I have had same symptoms with 111 and 111T after I have burned kerosene so long time that fount has got quite hot. I assume that with gasoline it happens faster than with kerosene.
     
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    I have often perceived hot fuel boiling in these stoves. Whether that is the situation here I can't tell.

    I don't see it as a problem when it happens.
     
  5. elcarlstono

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    I need to check but it started almost immediately after preheat after I opened the valve, and continued for several minutes after I shut it down. No, there was no water present.
     
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    Is there a wick in it? Visible from the tank filler cap?
     
  7. elcarlstono

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    That may be it. I don't easily see one. I'll compare it to my 111T in the morning.
     
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    I have a few stoves that I guess boil the fuel, especially my Ranger 10 kero stove.
    Duane
     
  9. elcarlstono

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    Well absence of wick was a fine theory, until I looked at the parts diagram. It uses a screen. Judging by the condition of the stove, I doubt it has been disassembled.
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    missing 2161?
     
  11. elcarlstono

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    No idea. Again, this stove does not appear to have been taken apart. Unless it was a miss at the factory. I don't like pulling the valve on these stoves.
     
  12. elcarlstono

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    Silly me, I didn't realize that this version doesn't have the valve screwed directly into the tank, like on 8R, which I don't like to remove.
    Yes, the screen 2161 is in place.
     
  13. elcarlstono

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    Tried it again, this time paying more attention to timing. It started gurgling about half way through the preheat cycle, so at this point I can only assume that it is fuel boil.
     
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    Wouldn’t think enough preheat heat would be generated to cause the boiling. Wonder if something else like an obstruction, debris from manufacture process?
    Duane
     
  15. elcarlstono

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    I'm at a loss. But it burns like a champ!
     
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    Fired both of mine up, boils after shut down, one a little longer than the other. Ran for maybe 10 minutes, wide open.
    Duane