I picked up a real oldie today 2pt,it has the early metho cup but no date code.So is there any way of telling it's age? Also picked up a 1911(missing a leg) but the first one looks older. |imgRemoved|
More questions than answers! First, is it really a Primus Brand. Have you cleaned the tank enough to see the Primus imprint? Replacement fuel caps and air screws can be misleading. Because it does not have the distinctive "bell" shape of the pre 1911 stoves I have here. You mention the old style spirit cup, which I presume means the funnel shape. Now I have a recent purchase of a pre 1911 that has a different shape again, a transitional one perhaps, with the spout part of the funnel going up instead of down. My camera will not pick up the detail unfortunately. Fr Laurence
Yes it's a Primus for sure Laurie.It seems not enough work has been done in this area? Albert has an early one aswell he tells me,I'll try and get a photo of his then we could all compare. |imgRemoved| It has this stamp underneath minus the 'A' |imgRemoved| Here's a link to Albert's two oldies. Link
I've come across what I think is an even older version with totally removable pump. I got some pictures of it which I will post a selection of later. I realized browsing through them I'd not snapped some of the detail so I'll be back on to the owner to take some more for me. I also have a sniff of one for myself. The interesting thing is it looks just like the miniture featured here, missing the pan ring. I'm sure it didn't even have the model number stamped on it which suggests very, very early to me. http://
Thanks Ross for that,so it seems then the real early ones have the removable pump.Pre 1911 all seem to have the straight feet tho. My pump nut has "F.W.Lindqvists Patent" stamped on it. So far we have, Very early-removable pump,straight feet. Early-removable pump deleted,straight feet 1911 model,bun feet introduced. I wonder what else's out there.
A small correction, I did not mean that all pre-1911 stoves are what I referred to as bell-shaped, but should have said that the ones I have are so shaped. Now in the above posting I also referred to a transitional type spirit cup, neither funnel nor our present type. I have this type on my stove with the removeable pump assembly, so maybe it is the earliest. Alas someone has added a pound of solder, so it does not remove any more. Re the legs, what strikes me is their very shortness, about 15mm on the above stove, down to about 8mm on my others. Does anyone remember way back when, I referred to a ebay sale of a pre 1911 which had no legs attached at all, but had a separate base with legs attached to the pot ring, and the stove sat inside the base ring? I commented at the time that I hoped one of our Spiritburner fraternity might purchase it, unfortunately I did not save the picture. Fr Laurence
Easy, Bun feet on a Primus No:1? What's your definition of bun feet? I've got plenty paperwork pre 1911 - just a case of getting it on the site. Whats on here is still only a small fraction. Fr Laurence - from an early US Primus catalogue I have it would appear the early US spec was much different to the stoves we know ie more like the legless model you describe. There's also a strong possibility these US stoves weren't actually made by Primus but by Lovetts. I'll post the catalogue shortly as it's an interesting read & something good for our US collector friends to look out for on their hunting trips. A stove like this is one of the first things I bid for & lost on ebay many years ago. I can remember clearly the adrenaline rush leading up to the completion & the feeling of being robbed by a sniper, a far cry from my current blaise approach ie automated bid & casula check of emails to see if I won!
