M-1950 - Help please - I am stuck!

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  1. Sebastian De Beer Australia

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    G’Day all

    I just can’t get the lower half of the valve assembly out of the fount of my M-1950.

    Looks like some kind of red thread sealant was used to secure it in there.

    I have had it in the vice and it doesn’t want to budge!

    What options do I have to loosen it up?

    Maybe some heat?

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  2. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

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    Use a judicious amount of heat, plus penetrating oil after the heat. Repeat many times if necessary.

    Patience works best on this kind of job.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  3. Sebastian De Beer Australia

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    Thanks Tony! Much appreciated.
     
  4. unklegubzy United States

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    Let us know how that turns out. I havent taken off my valve yet, and if i end up doing a full repainting i may have to.. it definitely shows some red sealant like in these photos. Im under the impression the threads are also tapered.
     
  5. TSPORT United States

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    If you haven’t had success yet, acetone (nail polish remover) will soften the red sealer. The sealer is actually Gasiola. Careful if using a strap wrench on the fount as it can dent it. Ask me how I know :-( Hardest valve I ever removed was on my M-1950. Best of luck.
     
  6. Sebastian De Beer Australia

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    Thank you. I have been waiting on some spare parts to arrive before giving it another go which I am planning to attempt next week. In the meantime I have got my 8R and 99 cleaned up and roaring very nicely.
     
  7. Oldhenry1 United States

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    I have to do this myself. Let us know what worked for you.
     
  8. presscall

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    Yes, they are.

    Fiesta manufacturer left, Wyott right.

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    The Wyott’s mounting boss for the valve (on the left here) has a greater length threaded section than the Fiesta’s.

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    I clamped the valve between wooden packing blocks in a vice (vise, US) and rotated the tank anti-clockwise, using rubber gloved for grip. Prior to that, I played a moderate blowtorch flame on the valve and then I used an acetone/auto transmission fluid mix inside the tank (filler hole blanked off) to loosen the bond.