Hi All! I've already asked a similar but different question. Does anyone know why Optimus decided to produce their 125th anniversary stove the Optimus Nova model and not the Optimus Nova Plus? Please share your comments.
Popularity, less complex design, and they are already making the Nova. The Nova plus has been discontinued.
Optimus nova has a second adjusting "knob" ,safer if you ask me.and if you're happeningto be using pump gasoline. I would want two taps between stove and 1 liter of gasoline... Not long ago had my left hand on fire( my fault+about 10ml of gasoline). Can't imagine what might happen if 1 liter of gasoline catches fire by mistake... I would also use a heat shield(infrared) between stove and gas tank... p.s. my next stove must burn pump diesel ,no compromises!
Are you saying that the two knobs of the Nova Plus are too close together, which may be a safety issue compared to the Nova which has two knobs separated? And I understand that you mean to change to a kerosne stove. Thanks for your opinion.
@SY Kimm Early Nova+'s were like early Nova's. With the CEJN coupler they both only had one control spindle. The Nova has a separate fuel line and flame adjuster and to me this is less complicated than combining the two into one part. Again, later models using the bayonet style fitting used the same pump so they both now had an on/off at the pump in addition to their unique flame adjusters. As far as I know Optimus has never sold the Nova+ combination fuel line / spindle / flame adjuster as a spare part, but I've only been collecting stoves for 20 years. I have purchased in the past spare pumps and fuel lines that are still being used today and I have even updated older "CEJN" stoves to use the current parts when the older pumps are only available used. My preferred use of the Nova+ is combining it with a Trangia 25 windscreen. I hope this helps although not related to your original question.
@SY Kimm this photo tells the difference betwen nova+ and nova. I consider Nova safer. And yes, I want a stove that burns diesel fuel from any gas station pump. not really paraffin/kerosene. I can't find those at any gas station. I use my stove daily,unlike some forum members here. that buy a stove and then look at it for years/decades. or don't even open the box in wich the stove came in... Wth is that? diesel fuel is far safer than gasoline ,I feel safer using it,especially after I had my left hand on fire for about 10 seconds,and skin peeling off(the pain is !!!!). good luck in your stove pick!
Thank you for your detailed explanation and practical, experience-based comments. I was already aware that the Nova+ combination fuel line / spindle / flame adjuster has never been sold as a spare part. This is indeed a worrying point for Nova+ users, although my Nova+ is still working well.
A camping stove is always a compromise...Diesel burns well in my MSR XGK. I'm guessing it might burn well in the Nova as well but I only run kerosene in it. The Nova is my best stove. I think they are great.
Hi! InspectorGadget, My nova plus is still running smoothly. However, looking at the product releases from Optimus, it suggests that there is something wrong with the nova plus than nova.
If I were starting my modern stove collection again...well first of all I'm not truly a collector. I collect enough to keep me happy with covering what I want and then I use them a lot. I guess if I started again I might be tempted to go for the Polaris but I am totally happy with the Nova. One thing I have learnt is that the physics of each stove is very different...the slightest differences add together to produce each stove which is unique. They all prime differently, burn differently, have potentially different issues and react differently to various fuel options...in other words the Polaris could be a pain in the butt burning kerosene and I would only find out by buying it...it could be the perfect stove though. The next I would definitely buy again would be the MSR Whisperlite Universal. The ability to burn gas is nice and I am not going to try kerosene in this stove and I haven't. I don't believe it was designed properly for kerosene, just not enough priming capacity. I do love the Whisperlite though. If I had to stop at two stoves this would be it. If I had to choose one stove it would be the Nova not the Whisperlite as the simmer ability and fine control on the Nova is great. The Nova on kerosene also produces massive amount of heat... I also use the MSR Dragonfly a lot. I love the support design for pots...big...stable...good. It also has great simmer control which I love and it is a cool stove. The XGK I run mainly on kerosene but recently I am running all my stoves on Shellite. One surprise with these stoves...noise! The MSR XGK on Shellite is really surprisingly noisy compared to the Dragonfly and the Nova is even quieter...yes really. You would think...surely they would all be similar in noise. I can tell you it varies more than you might think. The XGK is the one that will run extremely well on Diesel and I have put a few litres of Diesel through it. I suspect the Nova would run Diesel well as the base is substantial and will hold heat and burn heavier fuels very well. The Dragonfly for instance does soot a bit on kerosene relative to the cleaner burn on the Nova. It is counterintuitive as if you look at the Nova burning kerosene there is some yellow in the flame tips but none on the Dragonfly but it is the Dragonfly producing soot inside the burner. The Optimus Nova is built incredibly well, very high quality...everything. Nothing much goes wrong with it. The MSR stoves I have had a few issues from new and the pumps aren't as well built even though they are still lovely...just plastic. Maybe too much information but there you go.
I would like to express my deepest gratitude for the information and experience. I use gasoline because I have a habit of going light and I hate the smell of kerosene. In the Nova+. The burner part seems to be the same to Nova, and the big difference between the Nova and Nova+ is whether the flame control function is on the burner side or the fuel tank side. I understand that what you said means that it is better to have the flame control on the burner side. I have several types of gas stoves also, but I use a Soto Windmaster with a butane gas adapter. It is quiet and seems good for simply boiling water. I have not used the my MSR whisperlite in real camping. I will take note of the information you provided. Thank you again for your answer based on your experience.
[QUOTE="SY Kimm, post: 587974, member: 12644" In the Nova+. The burner part seems to be the same to Nova, and the big difference between the Nova and Nova+ is whether the flame control function is on the burner side or the fuel tank side. [/QUOTE] The regulation is on the burner side on both. The difference is just how the regulation knob is made. On Nova it is a straigh spindel, on Nova+ is is a hose outside the fuel line.
Your comment is correct in terms of structural functionality. From a user's perspective, it feels like it's on the far side of the burner. Thank you.
It seems quite easy to get, actually. https://www.optimusstoves.com/de/de/9872-8017629-optimus-fuel-hose-nova-plus Tusentals gasolprodukter på nätet Kind regards Tron
@Tron, Thanks for the info, it was not listed at the time of my reply and is not currently listed on the their US website. but now I have a part number. Mike.
don't know. never tried it ,never had one. still waiting for the gasoline one Shmel-2 to malfunction... next one will have to burn diesel from any gas station. I will not use anything else.
