Ultrasonic machine choice

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  1. Migwar

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    Hello everyone.

    I am intending to clean a few burners and some components (spindles, needles etc) with an Ultrasonic machine. The cost of these machines varies based on several factors and can go up to hundreds of dollars. I would appreciate your thoughts on the minimum effective type that could yield results for me. Based on your experience, would purchasng a small, non-industrial machine be sufficient? Thank you for your input.

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    Hi, I was in the situation as you, then I got a cheap 3L Vevor washer on eBay and I have to say it does its job well, up to common burner size it’s enough.

    Probably 4L offers a little more room, but bigger than these is probably too much for stove parts ;)

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    As Nicola confirms, the 3L Vevor does a good job which is the type I also use.

    Phil
     
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    bath capacity is only part of important parameters
    basic:
    - power ultrasonic transducer
    - liquid- bath heater with regulator
    - time programs 40 minutes - is minimal
     
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    @gieorgijewski mine can be set up to 30min, easy 80C… less than 40min but one cycle is hardly always enough for burners, for other parts more than enough
     
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    ok
    time depends on task - and or how agressive is bath
     
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    get the biggest you can afford...ive paid 200usd for a 10 liter one. I can clean tanks in it, its priceless compared to scrubbing!
    12-15liter is ideal but no less tha 10liter cuz you WILL want to clean other parts in it i promise haha! Even works awsome on rusty iron combined with citric acid powder solution.
     
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    Yes, large is better than too small.
    I also got the 10l since I want to be able to put fairly large engine parts in there.
    It can take a Rochester Quadrajet for instance.
    For smaller objects you can use zip bags or even glass jars to put in the larger water volume if you intend to use some sort of detergent, but don't want to waste 10 litres.

    An ultrasonic cleaner is useful sometimes, but don't expect it to perform miracles!

    This is the 10l Vevor I bought.

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    that type
    ultrasonic power: 240 W
    mean 4x60W
    divided by capacity
    =24 W per liter
    @Christer Carlsson

    other example - 120 W - 3 liter - was not good enough

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    I need to get one.
     
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    Dear everyone, I greatly appreciate your contributions on this subject. Although I value the suggestion to start with a large U/S, I would prefer to experiment with the smaller, much more affodable option, as mentioned, since it will have minimal to no impact on the inner tubing of the burners. This will certainly allow for some savings for a larger machine for more extensive projects in the future. I have a question regarding the topic linked by @kerophile if the liquid in the used plastic container rises above the level of the liquid inside the U/S unit, does the U/S effect reach the entiri liquid within the plastic container as anticipated, or do the waves (if this is the concept) only propagate laterally, necessitating the occasional flipping of the burner or the items inside the container?

    Best regards,
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    Hi @Migwar . I think that the ultrasonic pulses pass straight through the glass or plastic container as long as there is suitable liquid in both to provide a path.
    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    I’ve taken to flushing passages of submerged burner with a 10mL angle-tip irrigation syringe between U/S cycles in hopes the cavitation micro-bubbles can work their explodey scrubbing magic w/o disruptive dry pockets.
    It doesn’t not do nothin, no-how.
     
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    Hi @kerophile I've done some extra digging to understand—I'm basically an U/S underwater detective now! :lol: : The transducers are primarily affixed to the bottom of the machine container. As a result, the effect is vertical and of course through where the liquid exists. That's why, if the power is more than sufficient, the effect extends to the liquid within the secondary container (the plastic one), even if its level is higher than that of the liquid in the main container (despite that the effect basically should be limited to the max level of the original container, if the machine was made perfectly-maybe some additional effect for few centimeters in the liquid within the secondary container are being a blessing).
    @Gurgle by conclusion, if there is no liquid there will be no effect.

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    I use a 3L 100W with timer & heater. Big enough for most stove & bike parts that I clean. I had a cheap one from Aldi but it was a bit small & eventually packed in.

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    That's it. I opted for 1.4 liters one. This a fresh picture. Awaiting the results.

    Regards,
    Migwar
     

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    Crest brand ultrasonic cleaner with Branson brand fluid. Crest ultrasonic cleaners are ridiculously expensive, but they use a sweeping frequency rather than a fixed frequency, allowing for better results. For stoves, it's probably ridiculously overkill, but they are often used by dentists, and computer repair companies.

    Ok, but for a serious answer, the Vevor is great, and bigger is better. However, the heater and the ultrasonic cleaning functions, while they theoretically can be run simultaneously, should not be run simultaneously.
     
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    I would have liked a smaller model of the Vevor, thought I might want the larger model, but find I don't want to use so much capacity to do some tasks. Ideally, two sizes would be best, I drain any solution between uses, as it may be months between uses. I use the heater while cleaning to increase the temperature of my solution that was as hot as my household water heater could put out.
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    This is my other ultrasonic cleaner (3.2L capacity) which uses two transducers (120W) which I think actually performs better than my Vevor. IMG_5642.jpeg