Trangia "pan stand"

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  1. Normo

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    Hi all,
    I have been thinking about buying a Trangia Pan Stand, a frame that fits inside the Storm Cooker windshield, allowing smaller pans to be used. Supposedly it fits both the 25 & 27.

    I have not seen one in Australia or on a recent trip to UK, but can order one on line from Japan for about $30AU.

    Does anyone have any experience with these? Are they worth the money?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks
    Norm
     
  2. Hazet

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    I have one, and I use it often. To me it is well worth the price.
    It does allow for the use of smaller items such as coffee makers, odd sized tea kettles, pots, etc that would not normally fit on the Trangia "arms".
    I have found that on the 27 series, that the pan stand will fit on the "lower" part of the "arms", as well as the "upper" part of the "arms, when the "arms" are in the downward position. So you can vary the distance from the flame that way, in case that is important in some way. In the 25 series, it will only fit one way, on the lower part of the "arms".
    It packs well in the kit. I have the strainer too, and the pan stand fits securely bewteen the strainer and the tops of the pans or kettle (if your kit is so equipped), so there is no rattling when the kit is packed up.
    The ONLY issue I had with it was that when I bought it (new), there was a very very tiny spot of weld that formed a little "bump" in the center, and it hit the pan or whatever was on the pan stand. It would have been fine if I had just flipped the pan stand over and pointed the bump downward each time. I did not want to have to deal with remembering that, so a couple passes with a file and the bump was gone. Very easy fix to a very minor "problem".
    Anyway, I have one. I like it very much. I can post some fitment pics if you'd like.
     
  3. Spiritburner

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    I'd like to see that please.
     
  4. Hazet

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    Measurements are from the top of the pan rest to the uppermost part of the Trangia burner (slightly higher than the burner holes).


    Trangia 27 (modern version). Pan rest on "lower" part of the arms.
    Distange to top of Trangia burner is 31mm.

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    Trangia 27 (modern version). Pan rest on "upper" part of the arms.
    Distance to top of Trangia burner is 44mm.

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    Trangia 25 (modern version). Pan rest only fits on lower portion of the arms.
    Distance to top of Trangia burner is 35mm.

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    Trangia 25 (early version). Pan rest only fits on lower portion of the arms.
    Distance to top of Trangia burner is 35mm.

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    Trangia 27 (early version). The pan rest DOES NOT WORK in an early 27, as they are dimensionally smaller than the later production 27 series.

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  5. Spiritburner

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    Very neat! Thanks
     
  6. Normo

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    @Hazet - Thanks for your comments and photos. You have described it well. Based on your experiences, I will go ahead and order one. All my kits are new style ones, so there should be no problems.

    Norm
     
  7. TRA_A Israel

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    As an alternative for smaller pans or kettles what about some clipon extensions to the pan hooks:

    Eg modify (bend) 3 stainless wire clothes pegs like these:
    Stainless Steel Pegs/Clips - www.ecohug.co.uk

    so that pan isnt raised too much?
     
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    I like the Trangia pan stand. It fits in the kit well before closing up with the lid for storage.
     
  9. TRA_A Israel

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    My idea was once stove is setup and clips attached, standard saucepans or narrow kettle or saucepans can be used interchangably, and without obstructing access to burner or simmer control. Also, the clips can be added before burner lit and left whereas the pan stand may be an afterthought.
     
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    Interesting, but all those seem to sit over burner, limiting access meaning may be added over a lit burner. EDIT except of course, Scramblers angle bracket.*

    Can aluminium bracket withstand the full output of the spirit burner Ok?

    *
     
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  12. TRA_A Israel

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    Edit above to add

    :oops:*
    ...
    And

    *last post in first page of his Trangia Extras link.
     
  13. Scrambler

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    @TRA_A It seems to do fine. The flame isn't directly over it, and the pot only gets to 100C. I haven't done long burns so couldn't answer for that, but it's thicker than the Trangia itself so I don't expect trouble.

    You could always make it out of steel if you preferred. I had plenty of aluminium to waste.
     
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  14. TRA_A Israel

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    The pan stand seems to have been reduced in weight from 65 to 48g :)

    Unrelatedly,
    I am curious that both forms seem to have more welds (due to shorter sections of rod) than seems would be possible: I had assumed welding was the expensive bit due to needing a human rather than getting fullest utilisation from a length of raw uncut rod.
     
  15. TRA_A Israel

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    possible needs corrected to necessary
     
  16. Marc

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    Cheaper to have a single piece of rod bent en-mass by the thousands than have multiple different pieces and save a couple welds. Place three of this same bent rods into a jig, a few tacks with a mig gun, on to the next. Bet each one takes well under a minute to jig up and weld together.
     
  17. TRA_A Israel

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    I have miscounted, it looked like was made from 'L'shapes and sh but is 3 equal 'U'shapes it seems...
    No puzzlement required it seems. :)
     
  18. TRA_A Israel

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    .. and a clever design