Recreating a Replacement SVEA 801 Burner Plate

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  1. Rodger Willows

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    In three parts (lots of images):

    Part 1.

    In the last year I’ve acquired two of these burners – unsurprisingly neither have their top plates:


    VERA No. 1


    Svea No:1


    My (self imposed) challenge was to attempt a recreation.

    This is what we’re dealing with:


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    Courtesy @kerophile

    Svea 801 burner- C.1912


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    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/1912-sveaspislar.11447/


    A while back, some of you may recall my attempts to fettle a Heatapan stove:


    Heatapan Stove


    In order to recreate a burner plate I “pressed” 2 ¼ inch Welch plugs:


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    When the Heatapan went on to @Tony Press I retained the burner plate with this task in mind.

    I needed to create the “bumps”:


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    Not all Welch plugs are created equal - homogeneity can be a problem:


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    Planning, using the measurements provided by @kerophile and the two burners:


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    Time to get out the Dremel and cut away to fit:


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    Let's see how the burner performs with the incomplete burner plate:


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    Well (considering):


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    More planning:

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    Part 2.

    I needed a jig to hold the pieces in position for brazing:

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    But when I thought about it a little more decided that the large mass of aluminium would create a perfect heat-sink, which lead me to using a refractory brick instead with an appropriately long piece of stainless steel tubing for stability:

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    Then I thought I’d better fenestrate the tubing to allow a better heat transfer:

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    Then it was time to experiment with brazing possibilities. I’d (on the recommendation of a forum member) purchased some Bernzomatic PC-3 rods.

    I also had some old rods that I’d “found”.

    There followed a series of experiments with different brazing rod and flux options, temperature and scraps of brass to determine an optimum solution:


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    Consultation with a kite-flying friend who happened to teach welding in his “other life”, helped me to settle on a Tobin bronze option:

    https://www.cigweld.com.au/wp-content/uploads/CIGWELD-COMWELD-COMCOAT-T-PDS-V1-2024.pdf


    Nothing for it but to “have a go” then!

    I created my brazing facility:

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    And after three attempts got a result on Side No. 1:

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    The flux that I ended up using:


    https://www.jmmetaljoining.com/pdfs-products/Tenacity No.20 Flux Powder.pdf


    After heating it creates a glass-like glaze which is challenging to remove.


    After removing the excess metal and flux, time to attempt Side No. 2…

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    Attempt 1. Trying to “flow” the braze into the joint this time:

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    Well that didn’t work!

    Attempt 2. Try applying the rod:

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    Nope!

    Attempt 3. Less flux, more heat (2 x MAPP torches!):

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    Part 3.

    Time to clean it up and see if it fits and doesn’t disintegrate on a burner:

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    Firing up:

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    It lives!


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    This (my first) burner is a little misshapen so the burner plate sits a little proud, but it doesn’t appear too detrimental:


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    My burner plate creation sits better on the other burner.


    After-burn images:


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    Uh Oh, but there’s more experimenting to be had – more “Rodgering” to do!


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    You are commended for your patience and endurance…

    Oh, and before anyone gets any ideas, NO, I’m not going into production!

    Thanks!
     
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    Ha! Great work, Rodger.


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    Excellent work Rodger.

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    Great work and great effort!

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    A nice result, congratulations :thumbup:
     
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    Well done @Rodger Willows

    An excellent lesson in ingenuity and perseverance to bring a historical piece back to life :D/
    Welsh plugs the world over beware.

    Great to see Rodger :clap:
    Meticulous work with a successful result.
    Hats off to you!
    May many coffees be brewed upon your fantastic fabrication.

    Kind regards
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    Thanks Scott!
    There's more learning to be had.
    I hope you've had a wonderful family Easter...