I'm looking at an unfired Kamp Kook LCS-21. It appears to be the same as a Preway 4821 except it's got the big Kamp Kook leaded fuel generator like my big Kamp Kook 3-burner. I've also seen the design in at least one more manufacturer, but can't recall which. How many different makers used this design? Which was the first to use it? I'm guessing Preway, but maybe not? Are any of the variations more valuable than any others? Any other background for the K-K version? Thanks.
"This design" meaning the wedge, or the big fat generator? The 4821 and KK LCS 21 are two different stoves entirely, though at a casual glance they have a similar appearance.
Yes, I'm referring to the ridged, wedge shaped case, the flip up face plate attached to the grid and the sliding handle latch. Aside from the big generator, they look similar enough to be a re-label to me.
I have two LCS21's, one only fired a handfull of times and niether is a wedge like my Preway, they are standard suitcase units. They have the plate your are describing, but a normal case in a pretty metalic green. Are you sure the one your looking at is wedge shaped, meaning have you seen it in person or just pictures.
Well, I guess I'll do that. If I can get the K-K I'll put it next to my own 4821. I've only seen the pics in the ad so the similarity was striking. But I did just find a pic of the LCS-21 and now I see what you mean. The mechanisms are similar, but the case does not appear wedge shaped when closed.
You will like it if you get it, the cast iron burner will really cook. I was going to sell my rougher condition one but decided on keeping it as a user and preserving the nice one as a display piece, it keeps the heat much steadier than a 425 Coleman. Edit: When you get them side by side you'll also see differences in the valves, they look similar with the lighting valve wheel but they aren't identical as Kieth said.
Good to know! But is there any value in leaving it "unfired". It has the original instruction sheet, but no box.
It only has value if you sell it, so that is rarely a concideration I have to take into account! It is only unfired once- myself I would never fire it if it was still virgin. Even tho my nice one has only been fire 3 times (it was unfired when the person I bought it from got it to use, he lit it once and couldn't fiqure out the lighting system and bought a propane) I have put it away to keep as pristine as possible.
The LCS and WCS stoves were made by AGM/King Seeley/Thermos (same company, different owners/names) The fat portion of the LCS generator was a filter to try to contain combustion by-products to extend generator life when burning gasoline rather than Coleman Fuel. Only difference between LCS and WCS models is the generator Liquid Camp Stove vs. Whitegas Camp Stove. The WGS models came with a standard generator and (per instructions) used CF only. The wedge was made by Prentis-Wabers (Preway) a totally different company.
What I've read and saw with the patent the cylinder was to filter out lead. To stop people from breathing lead fumes. It had a live span and then you had to buy a new one. I believe you were supposed to return the old one, I believe. Joseph
