Is it possible ? I heard it could be done. It would make a great combination and I have both already so it would be fun to try. It looks like the Whisperlite could be slotted into the Trangia windshield then the legs unfolded once in the hole. Is that how it is done or do the Whisperlite's legs come off somehow ?
Don't see why it shouldn't work. Other popular multifuellers have been fitted into the Trangia setup one way or another. If you already have the items in question, why don't you experiment with them and post the results?
Howdy, Optimist, Well, to get the legs off your Whisperlite, all you have to do is unscrew the spirit cup, from underneath the burner. Then, then legs will slip right off. Expect, however, some jury-rigging, twisting, turning, and messing about, trying to get the generator loop out through the last leg. That having been said, I am not a big fan of the Whisperlite stove series, as they are not really reliable for extended use on the trail, nor are they very versatile, having only one speed: hot! Unless all you wish to do is boil water, then you'd be much better served by fitting another stove into your Trangia setup. Those that have done so, report well on using the Nova, any number of silent burners, and even an 8R burner!! After having used all forms of the Whisperlite stoves, for years, and after having massive failure problems with them, I would not trust one to do a good job for me. Your mileage may vary, of course, but for me, the entire WL series is not to be trusted, period. I like the MSR X-GK, in all it's versions, the Dragonfly, and dearly LOVE the old MSR Firefly!! That stove was a wonderful design, that was never given a chance to fully develop. It was reliable, hot as the fires of hades, and also simmered as delightfully as you could wish! It's proprietary windscreen, while wonderfully effective, was also a bit fragile, and it's truncated shape was fiddly to some folks. The kiss of death to this stove was the fact that it was very noisy!! So, the WL series was designed, and basically, took the place of the Firefly. None of the WL stoves can hold a candle to the Firefly, however, in any way, shape, or form!! Had MSR chosen to really support that stove, it would still be one of the best burning, and most reliable stoves burning in the back country, today!! Pity, that they chose to support the WL series, instead. We ALL "lost" when that decision was made! Sorry for the rant, but it's a sore subject with me. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Hi Optimist, Ian and Doc, I'm one of those folks that have been "burnt" by my Whisperlite failing me. In fact my search for an new "old" stove lead me to CCS. That said, I have the two stoves needed for this project and it could be a good match. I'm still lusting after the Nova for this purpose, but when working the Whisperlite is a good boiler/snow melter. Manny
Whisperlite Internationale (WI) has a thicker vaporizer tube, so it is supposed to be more reliable than the plain old Whisperlite. WI is pretty reliable, when used only with white gas. The trouble starts, when you put kerosene in it. Doc, I picked up an old Firefly, based on your experience, but I found it to be wanting. The performance was up to your description, but it's the material MSR used: aluminium. The spindle, the stuffing box, the burner body and stem--all made with aluminium, and the only thing that is holding the gas from leaking out from the spindle was an O-ring. Mine had a pretty gritty spindle and leaky O-ring, so I cleaned the spindle channel and replaced the O-ring, but aluminium rubbing against aluminium was not just good. I kept getting aluminium shavings, eventually the tolerance grew beyond the repair. If someone wants it for parts, I will send it. I am not too happy with it. I do not think it was the noise that killed Firefly. I think it was the soft metal they used that killed it. XGK and Dragonfly are doing well, although their noise level is about the same, if not louder! What I think is that MSR should have kept the roarer design of the Firefly and replace all aluminium parts with SS or brass, and keep Firefly at the current, compact Whisperlite size! What would have been the winner!
Hey, B2M, You are absolutely right about the larger generator loop on the "newer" WL Internationale stoves. I still do not trust it, and for reasons posted here, probably too many times. I'm very sorry that your Firefly did not live up to my ravings about it, too. I have had one other person tell me the same thing. All I can go on is my own experiences with it, and that has been 100% reliable, and an outstanding performer, in all regards. The only problem I ever had with it, is common to ALL MSR stoves that had the fabric-covered, crimped-on fuel lines: it leaked at the crimp, after many years of use! I sent it back to MSR and Mike Ridout, who was their stove tech at that time, soldered on a new brass-covered fuel line, and returned it to me. It's worked, without fail, since that time. I've never had any shaving problems with the aluminum body, and in fact, no other problems, at all, since it was returned to me Mine boils water faster than any stove I've ever had, too. And, at least for mine, it's quite a bit louder than either the X-GK, or the Dragonfly!! I once got out my sound pressure meter, to test that theory, but forgot to do so! The meter is still down in the Hobbit Hole, waiting for me to "remember" to run some tests with it!! Also, my memories of it's volume are based on the fact that the Firefly is the only stove I've ever used that precluded ANY conversation as it was working in camp!! Sweet Bride and I could always converse with the X-GK, or any other stove, working away, but never with the Firefly. Maybe I just got the very best one that MSR ever made, and all the others are junk!!! 8) But, one way, or the other, it's still one of our most favorite and trusted stoves, which is something that I simply cannot say about ANY of the WL series of stoves. To me, they are "one-note-Johnnys", and that "note" is not very sweet, in our experience with them. In any case, I'm sorry that your experience with the FF was not up to my own, and, based upon your experience, and the one other person that told me something similar, I should very probably keep my "pie-hole" shut in regards to the FF being a fine stove!! Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc (who's personal MSR Firefly is the absolute best of 'em, and was the only one ever made that was worth a bucket of warm spit!!!)
Thanks to everyone for the views. Will have a go when I manage to get the Trangia and the MSR in the same place
It's possible. I have a MSR Whisperlite Universal. Just remove the leg off and put it into Trangia cook kit . Boom ....
